ShinerBock wrote:
I have been a diesel owner for over 25 years with multiple diesels that started in the power range of this and the Ecodiesel's level and were modded because I could not stand towing at such slow speeds. I currently have two diesel vehciles, 6.7L Cummins and a 2.0L N47T. I have even worked for a diesel manufacturer(Cummins), various truck manufacturers(Ford & PACCAR), and currently work largest medium and heavy duty truck dealership group the US that sell many vehicles with power levels within this trucks range. Working for these manufacturers I listened to customers(both fleet and consumer) and studied the market. In short, just because I don't own an Ecodiesel doesn't mean I don't have valid insight on the matter.
If you want to claim that these diesels will sell more than the current Ecoboost trucks then that is fine, but past market history and a cost analysis for the average truck buyer tells me that most half ton truck buyers will not want to sacrifice over 130+hp to save less than $50 a month. Most who will buy this diesel will probably fleet buyers, but consumer purchases will probably be well below 20% just like the Ecodiesel which made up only 12% of Ram 1500 sales.
Now, before you say the you never said that this diesel will outsell the Ecoboost trucks, then why do you keep saying that I am wrong in my opinion? If my opinion is wrong then the only other thing that would be right is that they will either sale the same or more engines than the Ecoboost,which I do not think will happen.
Um...good for you? All those diesels you owned, did they weight the same as the ED, same turbo setup, same 8 speed transmission and gearing? Same exact loads? You must be futuristic.
You said you work for Ford currently? The ED has only been out a couple years, but you have all this hearsay from people going into a ford dealership......Ok. Somebody from another automaker could say they heard xyz about the EB.
Sales? Why would I say that? I said there is a niche for the truck. If your figures were correct, everyone below the national average for miles driven would not come out ahead unless they owned it for a long time. The diesel is supposed to be more expensive than the EB.
As the option goes down when the novelty wears off and the diesel fear/hysteria dissipates, is it possible it may overtake the EB. I don’t know. Are you saying that’s not possible?
