ShinerBock wrote:
Allamakee1 wrote:
Um...good for you? All those diesels you owned, did they weight the same as the ED, same turbo setup, same 8 speed transmission and gearing? Same exact loads? You must be futuristic.
It is more like awesome for me.
Although what does that have to do with historical market trends that show that small diesels like the Ecodiesel only making up 12% of sales and other less powerful fuel efficient beings outsold by more powerful less fuel efficient engines? What does it have to have to do figuring out the minimal cost savings for most half ton owners? Just because I have put over 200k miles behind two 3.5L Ecoboost does not mean squat when we are talking about market trends and total cost so why would you think you owning an Ecodiesel would?
Allamakee1 wrote:
You said you work for Ford currently? The ED has only been out a couple years, but you have all this hearsay from people going into a ford dealership......Ok. Somebody from another automaker could say they heard xyz about the EB.
Yes I used to work for Ford and currently work for the nations largest medium and heavy duty truck dealership group which includes four Ford dealerships which gives me access to Fords FMCDealer portal.
Allamakee1 wrote:
Sales? Why would I say that? I said there is a niche for the truck. If your figures were correct, everyone below the national average for miles driven would not come out ahead unless they owned it for a long time. The diesel is supposed to be more expensive than the EB.
Then why do you keep saying I am wrong if even you are stating that this diesel will not outsell the EB? You are contradicting yourself here. If this diesel is more expensive then the EB, then what is the benefit? It surely is not power, towing performance, or capability. Why would you buy something that is less powerful, less capable, and cost you more?
Allamakee1 wrote:
As the option goes down when the novelty wears off and the diesel fear/hysteria dissipates, is it possible it may overtake the EB. I don’t know. Are you saying that’s not possible?
I keep saying that this engine will not outsell the Ecoboost(or even come close) and you keep saying that I am wrong. So which is it, do you or don't think it will outsell the Ecoboost? If you don't know then why do you keep saying I am wrong?
Never said it will outsell the EB. Please show me where I said that. I think it is possible in the future with the scenarios I and Robert gave. I have no crystal ball though.
Oh you like the 3.5 EB. Never would have guessed that. I’ve driven one, never towed anything, very nice truck, drove very nice. Couldn’t comment on the immense power, performance, blah blah blah because I drove it like I would any other truck.
Your historical data with a 3.0 diesel is the first year that one was ever produced? Ok that’s a good sample pool......
Also, doesn’t sound like you even have any actual (my buddy drive one once and I sat inside) experience with the ED or any current 3.0 diesels. Correct?
I already gave you the scenario where the total cost makes financial sense especially with the ED over the EB where the ED price is actually cheaper.
