smurfs_of_war wrote:
Gents, is there any point to all of this? If so could we get to it please? I was enjoying this thread before the pot got tipped.
Because I posted this and Allmakkee1 got mad about it saying I was wrong when I said that most half ton truck owners will choose the Ecoboost over this engine if the cost difference is as low as it is becuase most would not be willing to give up over 130 hp, more capability, and better performance for such little monetary gain.
ShinerBock wrote:
Yes, you explained your situation and personal opinion just as I have explained mine which is that most would probably not be willing to give up that much power and capability for such little monetary gain. If the gain was greater(ie increase in fuel prices) then I can see it, but not if it remains less than $50 a month in savings.
So essentially, if you drive the average 16,550 miles most American male drives a year(LINK) and the gasoline prices in your area is the $2.50(current US average) and diesel was $2.99(current US average)(LINK). Then you take the average fuel mileage of the current 3.5L Ecoboost on fuelly which is 16.2 mpg(LINK) and then took the average for the Ecodiesel which is 22.4 mpg(LINK). That would give the average person a savings of $344.88 a year or just $28.74 a month on fuel alone.
Then add in the maintenance costs for both with the oil being about $120 for the Ecodiesel and $45 for an Ecoboost owner then that drops the savings down to $269.88 a year or $22.49 a month. Then you add in the DEF which is generally at a rate of 2% of 1 gallon of diesel consumed. An average fuel economy of 22.4 over 16,550 miles is 739 gallons which brings you to 14.78 gallons of DEF used. At Walmart's current price of $11.97 for a 2.5 gallon jug, that comes out to $70.77 cents for 14.78 gallons. This drops your savings down to $199.11 a year or just $16.59 a month. The $30 fuel filter will drop the savings to $169.11 a year($14.09 a month), but that is at a longer than 16.5k mile interval.
These calculations are based on the average person with the links provided for the data and not some small percentage of people like you and I who drive a lot more per year. I will bet you $1000 that if you go ask an Ecoboost owner or any other V8 truck owner that you can save them less than $17 a month if they switch to a truck engine with over 130 less horsepower, less capability, and less performance a vast majority will go tell you to pound sand and they will keep their truck.
Side note, if diesel prices only $.25 higher than the prices above(like they are in the summer for most people due to higher diesel taxes) making regular $2.50 and diesel $2.75. Then that would only be a $43.51 a month savings for these months and only a $28.74 for the winter months when diesel prices are generally $.50 higher due to diesel also being used as heating fuel during this time. Even factoring this in will not be enough of a monetary gain to make the average half ton truck owner switch considering what he will be loosing.
