Ok feel free to throw anyone like myself with any info under the bus...it's all good. This is not about me it's about the OP question "Ford or Dodge?" It didn't say a thing or ask about any year. Have at it...good luck on making a choice of any truck....just trying to help, but it doesn't seem to appease anyone at this point...I guess I will take the advice and move on. Thanks for the guidance to those who put in good information. I learned a thing or 2 and appreciate it. Oh and by the way can anyone answer this: does Cummins still use cooling nozzles?