4x4ord
Jan 22, 2019Explorer III
Ford Ram GM
When I bought my first F350 back in 2011 I felt there were a number of little things that made Ford a better choice for me than what GM and Ram were offering. Things like power tow mirrors, tail gate ...
Huntindog wrote:lenr wrote:IIRCC, NHSTA figures are warranty numbers. At least that is what it seems to read, and I DO remember some discussion as to just what that would do to the numbers of GM failures compared to Fords. Of course since Ford was denying claims, and GM was not.... That would show up in GMs higher failure rate that the NHSTA numbers showed.... We had a big discussion about it, but could never nail down just what the impact was.... Only that there was an impact.
Fundamentally warranty coverage and warranty repair approval comes down to a marketing decision. Ford is the largest seller and GM was just coming out of bankruptcy when the CP4 pumps came on the scene--both their marketing departments were doing the math and making a decision. I have read of (supposedly) actual cases over on www.thedieselstop.com (Ford forum) where the Ma and Pa station had algae and water in their fuel and another where the lazy delivery truck driver didn't adequately flush the ethanol out of the truck tank before loading diesel. Doesn't matter--water, DEF, gasoline, or ethanol in the fuel is going to blow the pump. From memory the NHSTA numbers were .06%, 6 in 10,000--and Ford repaired some of those. Yes, it would suck if it happened to you. But, I give every fuel stop the 10 second fresh fuel evaluation--does it look high volume and how desperate am I for fuel? And, I get a receipt for every tank of fuel so I could go back on station insurance if there is a problem. Also, some have gotten the repair paid for by comprehensive vehicle insurance when warranty was denied.