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- jjjExplorerYes that is the one
- HannibalExplorer
jjj wrote:
I work for a major soft drink company and they bought some hybrid Kenworth trucks and they are the slowest and problematic P.O.S.'s They had to remove them from SanFrancisco because the could not get up the hills. They are very scary to drive because of the poor performance.
Is this the one?
http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy12osti/53502.pdf - jjjExplorerI work for a major soft drink company and they bought some hybrid Kenworth trucks and they are the slowest and problematic P.O.S.'s They had to remove them from SanFrancisco because the could not get up the hills. They are very scary to drive because of the poor performance.
- spud1957Explorer
valhalla360 wrote:
spud1957 wrote:
What about all the thousands of hybrid Escape taxis in New York City. Appears they are a viable option?
They fit the operational profile that benefits from hybrid technology. Lots of stops and starts in traffic. It's an excelent match for the technology.
Much different from hooking a 6k lb trailer up and climbing a 5 mile 6% grade with the same vehicle.
Agree 100%. Hybrids have a place. - HannibalExplorer
Fordlover wrote:
You wouldn't guess that the Prius is capable of acceleration when you get caught behind one in traffic. Perhaps the drivers are always trying to outperform their previous MPG best. I feel like I could out run one on foot.
But in all seriousness, there is nothing wrong with hybrids. I knew a guy with a Escape hybrid with well over 100K on it and stated he had not noticed any degradation in MPG or battery performance.
The reason the hybrid battery packs can last for 10 years is because of the aggressive battery management system included with hybrids. You'll never get your laptop battery to last 10+ years without showing reduction in performance.
Cracks me up when I see someone behind me change lanes at a red light to get behind the car beside me instead of the Prius I'm in. Then when the light changes I take off like normal and the guy that changed lanes is caught behind the slowpoke that was beside me. I see more Buicks and work trucks poking around than hybrids and there are a lot of hybrids around Tampa. But they do have that stigma among other things. Co-worker asked why'd ya buy a girl car? I like girls. - valhalla360Navigator
spud1957 wrote:
What about all the thousands of hybrid Escape taxis in New York City. Appears they are a viable option?
They fit the operational profile that benefits from hybrid technology. Lots of stops and starts in traffic. It's an excelent match for the technology.
Much different from hooking a 6k lb trailer up and climbing a 5 mile 6% grade with the same vehicle. - spud1957ExplorerWhat about all the thousands of hybrid Escape taxis in New York City. Appears they are a viable option?
- FordloverExplorer
Hannibal wrote:
There's still a whole lot of ignorance about hybrids floating around. The Prius battery pack is smaller than the two batteries required for a diesel pickup and last way longer so the environmental claim is a nonissue. The cost of a battery pack at 10-12~ years is less than the cost of a transmission in a conventional vehicle at about the same time and mileage. My work vehicle, a Prius, has a 1.8L gas engine combined with it's hybrid motor/generator. Acceleration is not a problem at all. Honda's hybrid isn't the same. It's engine runs any time the car is driven. The Prius will run on battery up to 42mph. There are no fan belts or timing belt to worry with. The a/c compressor is electric so I stay cool in the summer heat on battery power. The money I save on the fuel cost difference alone, $700-800 a month for the F250 verses $150~ a month for the Prius pays for the Prius and then some. Wife drives the F250 for her short commute. I drive 100+ miles a day and average 52~city and 47~ interstate. The hybrid works great for me. My niece likes her several years old Yukon hybrid giving her 22~mph city. I think the F150 hybrid would be a good thing for some if the ignorance were ever replaced with facts about them. The only regret I have is that I didn't buy one years ago.
You wouldn't guess that the Prius is capable of acceleration when you get caught behind one in traffic. Perhaps the drivers are always trying to outperform their previous MPG best. I feel like I could out run one on foot.
But in all seriousness, there is nothing wrong with hybrids. I knew a guy with a Escape hybrid with well over 100K on it and stated he had not noticed any degradation in MPG or battery performance.
The reason the hybrid battery packs can last for 10 years is because of the aggressive battery management system included with hybrids. You'll never get your laptop battery to last 10+ years without showing reduction in performance. - pitchExplorer III know that these guys naysaying hybrids would be the same guys laughing at Otto Diesel and Henry Ford from their horse drawn buggies.
This technology is in its infancy,20 or 30 years from know when all vehicles will more than likely be diesel/electric,it will be mature technology and the norm. - HannibalExplorerThere's still a whole lot of ignorance about hybrids floating around. The Prius battery pack is smaller than the two batteries required for a diesel pickup and last way longer so the environmental claim is a nonissue. The cost of a battery pack at 10-12~ years is less than the cost of a transmission in a conventional vehicle at about the same time and mileage. My work vehicle, a Prius, has a 1.8L gas engine combined with it's hybrid motor/generator. Acceleration is not a problem at all. Honda's hybrid isn't the same. It's engine runs any time the car is driven. The Prius will run on battery up to 42mph. There are no fan belts or timing belt to worry with. The a/c compressor is electric so I stay cool in the summer heat on battery power. The money I save on the fuel cost difference alone, $700-800 a month for the F250 verses $150~ a month for the Prius pays for the Prius and then some. Wife drives the F250 for her short commute. I drive 100+ miles a day and average 52~city and 47~ interstate. The hybrid works great for me. My niece likes her several years old Yukon hybrid giving her 22~mph city. I think the F150 hybrid would be a good thing for some if the ignorance were ever replaced with facts about them. The only regret I have is that I didn't buy one years ago.
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