Fords 6.7 Scorpion Diesel motor

NinerBikes wrote:

RedRocket204 wrote:

NinerBikes wrote:

RedRocket204 wrote:

The Mad Norsky wrote:

RedRocket204 wrote:
1Longbow,


Keep in mind that of all the negative nancy's posting in this thread, only two of them actually owned the 6.7L Powerstroke, the rest are just continually spewing stuff they read online.

It's a common agenda for these posters on this forum.

:h

I do hope one of those two is me. I owned one from 2011 until September of this year.

Yes and ricatic is the other. The rest like to run their mouths about stuff they have only read about and have no true experience like they are experts on the subject.

experts... LOL


Am I an expert? No! I just call out the BS as I see it.

Hey mouth piece... If you think I have no skin in the game, you are dead wrong... I own 2 Touareg TDI's with Bosch CP4.2 HPFP's in them. I also owned a 2012 passat tdi with a Bosch CP4. NHTSA and their file a complaint is on my speed dial on my smart phone. All I am going to need to see is a P0087 "Low Fuel rail pressure code" show up on my Torque App, and then the T25 bit comes out and the pressure sensor on my Bosch HPFP comes off to look inside for metal bits and shavings.

If those two items show up, NHTSA is going to hear from me about how unsafe this vehicle in stalling on me in rush hour traffic.

So glad you are capable of diagnosing your own failures, instead of getting a snow job from the service manager at any dealership you go to, or worse yet, getting hit for deductible out of pocket when the dealership weasels out on warranty work.

I hope I never have to get a new HPFP due to failure, but I run a pinch of biodiesel in every fillup, since I took delivery brand new, day 1, in every one of them.

Oh and here's the facts...


I've seen in excess of 10 of these pumps, apart, in and out of failed VW TDIs, held the failed pumps in my hand. This one out of a Touareg. I've dissected a few of them also.

Some of us walk the walk, the rest of you are in the dark. FACT. Until you do failure analysis, you're just another blue oval koolaid drinking fanboi. Just calling it as I see it. One day, it might be your turn for a tow job and a 2 to 3 week wait. Come back then, and tell us about it, when it's your turn.

I see...6.7L? Nope. Check. Another "expert" what?

And who is the fanboi? Have I defended Ford here? Nope...just pointing out where the BS is king. And it's deep in this thread...once again.

You still don't "get it"... it's not a Ford issue, or a GM issue, or a VW, or Audi or Porsche issue.... They ALL buy a complete black box Common Rail diesel fueling system from Bosch. It's a Bosch problem. They all sub contract out their fueling systems from Bosch. All that matters is that Ford goes to bat for you against Bosch for a warrantied fuel system replacement, or they weasel out of it.

Ford's track record with building diesels... 3 attempts now, since Navistar got smart and dumped Ford. 6.0, 6.4, now 6.7. Nothing has changed, when it comes to their engineers designing diesel engines.

Cummins track record? Duramax track record? You tell me.

Oh, I get it...I just choose to take information from experts versus forum "experts".

NinerBikes wrote:

Ford's track record with building diesels... 3 attempts now, since Navistar got smart and dumped Ford. 6.0, 6.4, now 6.7. Nothing has changed, when it comes to their engineers designing diesel engines.

Case in point...you have an hidden agenda along with a lot of others who have posted in the thread. Ricatic however has a well known issue with Ford along with an agenda about it but he has been honest of why his agenda.

jerem0621 wrote:
These threads make me feel pretty good about my decision to run HD Gassers. Gas is cheap and I can replace 2 gasser motors for the cost of one HPFP failure (if the motor doesn't get ghosted).

10-15k repair bills horrify me...

Not trolling, I'm serious...how will people be able to afford this stuff out of warrenty?

Thanks!

Jeremiah

How can you afford it under warranty!!!!

Ford hasn't had the best track record since the 7.3, but they only have made 1 engine on their own... well 2 revisions of 1 engine.

You may also want to check on who dumped who, and for what reasons.

8iron wrote:
"Ford's track record with building diesels... 3 attempts now, since Navistar got smart and dumped Ford. 6.0, 6.4, now 6.7. Nothing has changed, when it comes to their engineers designing diesel engines."

You sure about this?

I am sure that IMHO, it's my belief, as noted by experts that are in the rebuilding diesel motor industry and their pictures and video's of repeated, common failures that keep on reoccuring, such that they can make a business model out of it and be predictive, due to experience. Pictures don't lie. People trying to get warranty work covered is another matter.

"Ford's track record with building diesels... 3 attempts now, since Navistar got smart and dumped Ford. 6.0, 6.4, now 6.7. Nothing has changed, when it comes to their engineers designing diesel engines."

You sure about this?

RedRocket204 wrote:

NinerBikes wrote:

RedRocket204 wrote:

The Mad Norsky wrote:

RedRocket204 wrote:
1Longbow,


Keep in mind that of all the negative nancy's posting in this thread, only two of them actually owned the 6.7L Powerstroke, the rest are just continually spewing stuff they read online.

It's a common agenda for these posters on this forum.

:h

I do hope one of those two is me. I owned one from 2011 until September of this year.

Yes and ricatic is the other. The rest like to run their mouths about stuff they have only read about and have no true experience like they are experts on the subject.

experts... LOL


Am I an expert? No! I just call out the BS as I see it.

Hey mouth piece... If you think I have no skin in the game, you are dead wrong... I own 2 Touareg TDI's with Bosch CP4.2 HPFP's in them. I also owned a 2012 passat tdi with a Bosch CP4. NHTSA and their file a complaint is on my speed dial on my smart phone. All I am going to need to see is a P0087 "Low Fuel rail pressure code" show up on my Torque App, and then the T25 bit comes out and the pressure sensor on my Bosch HPFP comes off to look inside for metal bits and shavings.

If those two items show up, NHTSA is going to hear from me about how unsafe this vehicle in stalling on me in rush hour traffic.

So glad you are capable of diagnosing your own failures, instead of getting a snow job from the service manager at any dealership you go to, or worse yet, getting hit for deductible out of pocket when the dealership weasels out on warranty work.

I hope I never have to get a new HPFP due to failure, but I run a pinch of biodiesel in every fillup, since I took delivery brand new, day 1, in every one of them.

Oh and here's the facts...


I've seen in excess of 10 of these pumps, apart, in and out of failed VW TDIs, held the failed pumps in my hand. This one out of a Touareg. I've dissected a few of them also.

Some of us walk the walk, the rest of you are in the dark. FACT. Until you do failure analysis, you're just another blue oval koolaid drinking fanboi. Just calling it as I see it. One day, it might be your turn for a tow job and a 2 to 3 week wait. Come back then, and tell us about it, when it's your turn.

I see...6.7L? Nope. Check. Another "expert" what?

And who is the fanboi? Have I defended Ford here? Nope...just pointing out where the BS is king. And it's deep in this thread...once again.

You still don't "get it"... it's not a Ford issue, or a GM issue, or a VW, or Audi or Porsche issue.... They ALL buy a complete black box Common Rail diesel fueling system from Bosch. It's a Bosch problem. They all sub contract out their fueling systems from Bosch. All that matters is that Ford goes to bat for you against Bosch for a warrantied fuel system replacement, or they weasel out of it.

Ford's track record with building diesels... 3 attempts now, since Navistar got smart and dumped Ford. 6.0, 6.4, now 6.7. Nothing has changed, when it comes to their engineers designing diesel engines.

Cummins track record? Duramax track record? You tell me.

I support Ricatic. Ford screwed him !!

These threads make me feel pretty good about my decision to run HD Gassers. Gas is cheap and I can replace 2 gasser motors for the cost of one HPFP failure (if the motor doesn't get ghosted).

10-15k repair bills horrify me...

Not trolling, I'm serious...how will people be able to afford this stuff out of warrenty?

Thanks!

Jeremiah

Brand loyalty and brand bashers are almost equal here.

Ricatic seems to be the one with the worst first hand experience with the engine. He was certainly screwed over, but a case that bad is the exception.

I believe that all three manufactures have good options. My choice is RAM.

Good luck.

If you want to know about how they last under heavy use look at some of the discussions on the 6.7 in the 450-550 models... they are not any better than any previous engine post 7.3.

Seized engines, broken glow plugs, valve issues, HPFP issues, turbo issues, etc....

They seem to be doing better in the pickup, but much worse in the C&C.. so at how many miles are the pickup versions going to start down the same road??

There is slightly different tuning C&C to pickup, but the C&C is rated with less power too.