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Jun 08, 2017

Frustration trying to choose / what about a Suburban!

I tell ya, this RV'ing thing is hugely frustrating. Even trying to figure out what to buy! I had decided I would just buy a (likely a 1-ton) pickup and a truck camper. New is really expensive! So, used. Each time I have looked at one that caught my eye, something got me. The last TC I looked at, I don't think the seller is shooting me straight, plus, it seems overpriced. And even if I bought it, then I have to find a truck that is not worn out. Buying a new 1-ton again provides sticker shock.

A Pleasure Way Plateau something or another model caught my eye as I viewed some Youtube videos. I watched the entire thing and, my, I was impressed. I guess it's a Class C. I wondered if you could even pull a boat with that thing, but it sure was nice. And then I googled around and found out it's $150k! Sheesh.

So, back to thinking of simply a topper or cap or whatever you want to call it for a pickup (even a 3/4 ton), and a portable A/C somehow rigged up to pipe in cold air to the back. Problems, always problems here and there. The top priority here is a cool place to sleep. A bathroom and interior space would be great but not entirely necessary.

I got to thinking... what about a Suburban? Main issue here is to be able to haul gear plus have a place to sleep for me and sometimes my g/f; but I am 6'2" tall, so, I need 74" or so of length. Compounding that problem is it has to be able to be cooled. It is terribly hot in the south. I suppose I cannot run the Suburban engine for fear of carbon monoxide. I have two portable generators. One might be sufficient or I could run them in parallel. Maybe it would be possible to make a rig to pipe in cold air from a window A/C. Or what about installing a roof A/C on top the Suburban; could you run that off a generator? Might even be able to rig the generator off the rear bumper?

If a Suburban type vehicle would work, it could be had for a 'reasonable' amount (just say $20k to $30k used or $50k to $60k new), and then customize it. You could get/modify one to be stout enough to pull a boat. The whole idea seems so much simpler than other options, plus, not making the mistake of buying an uber expensive RV and then find out you regret it. Anyone ever done this? Now, I gotta figure out if a Suburban has enough floor space for us to sleep, lol.
  • You can buy a decent used Class B van for under $20k.

    You can buy a new 1-ton gas engine 4wd truck for about $40k and a decent used camper for under $10k. I purchased my used 8' camper for $6k nine years ago and it's still in great shape and worth about $6k.

    You will not want to run a generator all night to run the ac. During the hot summer, get a campsite with power. Alternative is just to run a 12V fan which you can run all night off the battery. Other alternative is to go up in elevation to get cooler nights.
  • Well, my understanding is that for a window unit to work right, it has to be mounted through the wall, with the inside part inside the room and the outside part outside. You can't "pipe" the cold air. It's not meant to push air through a ductwork, and needs to circulate the air in the room. The intake and exhaust are both on the front. Cold air is blown straight out into the middle of the room, and warm air is pulled in from above off the wall. Inside a duct, it would just circulate the cold air and shut off after a few minutes. cold air would not make it into the vehicle.

    To that end you would have to be able to hang a window AC unit on the Suburban somehow, probably on the back so you don't have it hanging out the side as you go down the road, and/or don't have to remove it every time you decide to pull up stakes and go somewhere different.

    A rooftop unit is certainly doable, as all it takes is a 14" square hole in the roof and maybe a little bracing.

    In either case though, you're cutting up your Suburban and making it unsellable down the road when that eventually happens. Hopefully you will love it so much that you'll keep it until it has depreciated to the point where it doesn't matter, but it might be something you want to consider.

    Really, ANYTHING is doable. I know taller people sleeping in shorter trucks and loving every minute of it.
  • Buy a lightly used pickup, maybe a 3/4 ton. Put a camper shell on the back, or just a cover. Find a used 24-26ft. dual axle travel trailer. You need something easy to sell if this doesn't work out for you. Since you're in Louisiana, look over here in Houston at PPLmotorhomes.com for used trailers. Used pickups are everywhere. I even bought one in Lake Charles.
    But if you need to pull a boat, Class C.
  • I'm wondering why this thread is in the TC forum, but most of us have TCs because we need trucks for some other reason, like 4x4, or plan to tow heavier trailers.

    Many types of rvs can work.
  • A 2500 suburban would pull a boat of substantial size. Modifying a suburban with air conditioning, sleeping quarters, and a bathroom, although it could be done, that's a LOT of modification.

    How about considering the suburban 2500 and the boat. Get a boat big enough it has it's own kitchen area, bathroom, and sleeping quarters below deck. Then you could use the boat as a boat, or a camper! You'd have the best of everything there. I'm just tossing an idea out there for you, something you might not have considered.

    But, for your price range, a CLASS-C sounds more logical.
  • You might post this in class B forum for better responses.
  • What you are talking about can be had for $5000 or less. My old Astro van can pull my boat or up to around 5000lb travel trailer. I have done it and except for the mileage going way down it did not hurt the van. Blue Book is around $2500 or less.

    You can use a porta potti. Thetford makes a nice one for $140.

    A RV Air conditioner is around $700, but you will need to cut a hole in the roof and mount it.

    A little carpentry can make a bed in a van.

    My Astro hitch can support a Generator so you can run the AC and have a small refrigerator both.

    My wife and I used the Astro to camp all down the Baja peninsula and it had plenty of capacity for us. I did not add a roof AC because we went down in the winter months, but we could have with some minor mods.

    OR as suggested you can buy a used B or C for $10,000 and budget $2-3000 for repairs as needed.
  • And if your price extends into the 50-60K range why not go with a brand new class C? The smaller Thor or gulfstream units fall right into that range. If the model you decide you like doesn,t have a genny, put a carrier on the back and bolt one on it.
    If you dont want to take the big hit for the first year or two on the value of the unit, again you can get used ones for 30-35 that are in very good condition.
    If you dont mind towing, there are plenty of used TT's and 5'ers that can be had for reasonable prices and good used trucks for $20 k or so.
  • Maybe a van? it would be easier to adapt a widow ac unit in back too. Small window ac unit will more easily run on a small generator too. Only 5000 btu or so.

    Find ONE without windows?

    I cant find it but I remember running across pics of a shroud set up that held an ac unit in the rear window area of a panel van. I've also seen very clean installs of small generators on the rear of vans. With some brainstorming and work it can come out clean and not look trashy. After installing a generator on the rear of a TT I would not only concentrate on sound deadening but vibration isolation too.