southernsky wrote:
That being said, when you hook up a trailer to them, they all get about 10-11 mpg
Very true.
I still have a 2005 Ford V10 dually, DRW 2WD with 4.30 gears. This truck is bullet proof so I kept it.
I also have a 2019 Ram HO dually, DRW 4WD with 3.73 gears (but is it a Fiat or a Peugeot?). I ordered from the factory in Mexico.
When towing the same 5th wheel, I have lots of data that proves that the Ford will get as little as 8.4 mpg on a trip (round trip) and as much as 10 mpg (round trip). Overall, I figure on 9.4 mpg.
The new Ram has averaged as little as 9.0 mpg (round trip) and as high as 10.7 mpg (round trip).
The only difference is that the Peugeot has better downhill engine braking and is 15 years newer. I won't drive it to the local dump because it is a wussy french truck. The Ford does the dirty work. I did upgrade the brakes on the Ford and they are awesome. But, the engine braking on the Peugeot is nice.
The Peugeot cost a lot more. If the overall cost of the truck really mattered, I wouldn't have bought a new truck. The Ford works. But in the end, "the want" was greater than "the need." I also waited for the 2019 Ram because it was so much quieter than the 2018, and the 2019 passenger power seat finally matched what Ford offered as an option 20+ years ago. LOL.
If Ford offered a truck that had a decent 12" screen in the cab and didn't have the butt ugly DRW fenders, I would have bought the Ford. But, they don't and probably won't for years.