Full pics & some info... 2017 Super Duty

ksss wrote:
I am not sure when enough is enough as far as power, but I does not appear that anyone wants to back out. I think GM would have liked to and while they perform well in the real world, they cant win the battle in ads on TV and print at their current output. So the big power show will continue. I have to think that when they all hit 1000 pounds of torque and 500ish hp that they will largely call that good (give or take a 5-10 hp or torque bump here and there. I also wish they would spend some time on improving the mpg's but that does not seem to be a big issue, especially currently.

Next couple months will be interesting in the HD pickup world. I would have never guessed even 5 years ago that you could buy a pickup off the showroom floor with these kinds of projected numbers.

Good post. Calling enough is enough happened a few years back with the sports car and sport sedans on the last few years. There was the power wars, but now it's been about weight savings. Makes for better handling, braking and fuel economy. Win, win, win.A good example of this is the latest M3 which is only 10 hp more than its predecessor but is lighter and faster. That said, the Hellcat from Dodge just came out so...

I understand it's far from an apples to apples as big trucks need curb weight to keep trailers and loads stable but it does seem SRW trucks that weigh 8,000lbs empty is a bit nuts.

Not to mention the new engines are so powerful the drivelines can't keep up and the torque management is far more intrusive than on my 2005 1-ton Cummins, for example.