GM’s official run at Tesla starts with its E Hummer debut.

thomas201 wrote:
I worked for a company where a Chevy 3/4 ton with Quadrasteer was passed around for opinions. We were in the oilfield in the eastern US. This means miles of mud up to the doors. The truck had failures, maybe due to long periods of the steering motor being wet, sometimes submerged. Then it dried out and was surrounded by hard mud, the boots got ripped. It also seemed to want to have the rear climb up out of the ruts. It also seemed to be a weak design, when you got in too deep and the cat had to drag you out backwards. If I remember correctly the steering tie rods and rack and pinion now lead the way in reverse, and found the rocks in the mud. All that stuff was about axle height. Now for rock crawling, maybe a different opinion. Parallel parked good too. We normally did not tow trailers with "white" vehicles so no opinion on towing.

Speaking of towing, any news on the E Hummer on ratings and distance?

Haven’t seen anything on towing. The EV truck gurus figure that the kind of towing it should be able to do is a trailer full of quads or dirt bikes, boats etc. Weekend recreation. Not sure how valid that is. What go hummers typically tow. Guessing it’s classified as a half ton like the Cybertruck and Rivian.

I worked for a company where a Chevy 3/4 ton with Quadrasteer was passed around for opinions. We were in the oilfield in the eastern US. This means miles of mud up to the doors. The truck had failures, maybe due to long periods of the steering motor being wet, sometimes submerged. Then it dried out and was surrounded by hard mud, the boots got ripped. It also seemed to want to have the rear climb up out of the ruts. It also seemed to be a weak design, when you got in too deep and the cat had to drag you out backwards. If I remember correctly the steering tie rods and rack and pinion now lead the way in reverse, and found the rocks in the mud. All that stuff was about axle height. Now for rock crawling, maybe a different opinion. Parallel parked good too. We normally did not tow trailers with "white" vehicles so no opinion on towing.

Speaking of towing, any news on the E Hummer on ratings and distance?

I recall many great compliments from those that actually owned a quadrasteer.
While neither is in production I would trust the Hummer over Cyber for off-road strength and durability of the suspension.
Will be interesting what the off-road people say about each.

mkirsch wrote:

Reisender wrote:

thomas201 wrote:
Journey to the past with GM. Don't you guys remember the Quadrasteer, in about 2000 to 2005. Nuthing new. Not impressed then.

I do. One of our neighbours in Palm Springs has one. But I think the tires turn in opposite direction from front to back.

They turn opposite in slow maneuvering, but in the same direction at high speeds.

Ahhh. Ok. That makes sense. Thanks.

Reisender wrote:

thomas201 wrote:
Journey to the past with GM. Don't you guys remember the Quadrasteer, in about 2000 to 2005. Nuthing new. Not impressed then.

I do. One of our neighbours in Palm Springs has one. But I think the tires turn in opposite direction from front to back.

They turn opposite in slow maneuvering, but in the same direction at high speeds.

p220sigman wrote:
I was kind of thinking the lane change thing maybe. I don't off-road so I wasn't sure if there was an application there or not. For parallel parking, it would be great if the wheels turned 90 degrees. Then you could just pull up even with the spot, turn the wheels and slide right in. Just seems like a gimmick to try to add something unique.

Unique? Looks almost exactly like the old Quadrasteer system to me. Heavy and expensive. You got one of those trucks stuck, and you had something.

thomas201 wrote:
Journey to the past with GM. Don't you guys remember the Quadrasteer, in about 2000 to 2005. Nuthing new. Not impressed then.

I do. One of our neighbours in Palm Springs has one. But I think the tires turn in opposite direction from front to back.

Journey to the past with GM. Don't you guys remember the Quadrasteer, in about 2000 to 2005. Nuthing new. Not impressed then.

wnjj wrote:

p220sigman wrote:
I was kind of thinking the lane change thing maybe. I don't off-road so I wasn't sure if there was an application there or not. For parallel parking, it would be great if the wheels turned 90 degrees. Then you could just pull up even with the spot, turn the wheels and slide right in. Just seems like a gimmick to try to add something unique.

The parking thing...another 'new' old idea. :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki9otMeiRP0

That was what made me think of the parking idea.

I guess it is moot for me since I won't be buying one. I don't need another mortgage, especially for a vehicle.

free radical wrote:

p220sigman wrote:
I ask this question in all seriousness, outside of some off-road conditions (I assume), why would you need a vehicle to be able to "crabwalk"? I can't think of a driving situation I've been in where that would be useful.

Could be good For people who dont know how to paralel park Lol

OK even if you are good it is still possible now and then to be a bit far from the curb and you want to tuck it in a bit better without pulling back into busy traffic. Or possibly make it easier to get out if you get boxed in a bit tight while you were away.