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LITEPHIL
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Sep 10, 2020

GM 6.6 gas

Not much talked about here on the new GM 6.6 engine. Whats the thoughts from people that own one? I may be interested in getting one next year if it has the 10 speed transmission.
Wish there was a bit more published testing other than those two guys that don't seem to really know what they're doing. Please don't refer to them since the test they did mentioned that the truck was floored and it showed the RPMs at like 3600 or what ever it was. But any real life input would be appreciated.
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  • Groover's avatar
    Groover
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    Sep 18, 2020
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    colliehauler wrote:
    Krusty wrote:
    Ford's 10R80 transmission was a joint venture between Ford and GM. It is a light duty transmission used in vehicles like the F150 and Mustang. It is not an HD transmission that would be suitable in the HD trucks.
    Thanks for the clarification.


    I suspect that the 10R140 used in Super Duty trucks is closely related to the 10R80, just scaled up for the extra torque. I don't understand why GM took so long to do the same thing.
  • colliehauler's avatar
    colliehauler
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    Sep 18, 2020
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    Krusty wrote:
    Ford's 10R80 transmission was a joint venture between Ford and GM. It is a light duty transmission used in vehicles like the F150 and Mustang. It is not an HD transmission that would be suitable in the HD trucks.
    Thanks for the clarification.
  • lly-zf6's avatar
    lly-zf6
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    Sep 17, 2020
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    trailrider wrote:
    Dadoffourgirls wrote:
    Must be there are only 3 RVers that own a 6.6 gas engine, based on the responses. Must be many that go for the Duramax.


    That is the result of dealers only ordering diesels to put on the lot. It is almost impossible to find a gas powered HD pickup sitting on a lot. Unless you want a white work truck.


    There is some truth to that statement.
    I just bought mine a few weeks ago.
    My dealer ran a 250 mile radius trace for a LT double cab gasser.
    There was a total of 1 on the lots.
  • trailrider's avatar
    trailrider
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    Sep 17, 2020
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    Dadoffourgirls wrote:
    Must be there are only 3 RVers that own a 6.6 gas engine, based on the responses. Must be many that go for the Duramax.


    That is the result of dealers only ordering diesels to put on the lot. It is almost impossible to find a gas powered HD pickup sitting on a lot. Unless you want a white work truck.
  • Krusty's avatar
    Krusty
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    Sep 16, 2020
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    Ford's 10R80 transmission was a joint venture between Ford and GM. It is a light duty transmission used in vehicles like the F150 and Mustang. It is not an HD transmission that would be suitable in the HD trucks.
  • Grit_dog's avatar
    Grit_dog
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    Sep 15, 2020
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    noteven wrote:
    Grit dog wrote:
    noteven wrote:
    Is there something wrong with the Allison transmission in GM pickups?

    Other than it doesn't have 4 overdrive speeds mostly useless for towing?


    Other than the gasser trucks haven’t had the Allison option since the 8.1L days, nothing is wrong with the Allison.


    GM calls Allison: "We need more speeds... consumers want speeds!"

    Allison: "Why?"

    GM: "Because Ford has more speeds..."

    Allison: "But Ford uses 140 cubic inch engines..."


    Too many Molsons?
    You’re not making sense son...
  • Groover's avatar
    Groover
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    Sep 15, 2020
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    noteven wrote:
    Grit dog wrote:
    noteven wrote:
    Is there something wrong with the Allison transmission in GM pickups?

    Other than it doesn't have 4 overdrive speeds mostly useless for towing?


    Other than the gasser trucks haven’t had the Allison option since the 8.1L days, nothing is wrong with the Allison.


    GM calls Allison: "We need more speeds... consumers want speeds!"

    Allison: "Why?"

    GM: "Because Ford has more speeds..."

    Allison: "But Ford uses 140 cubic inch engines..."



    Allison does not build transmissions for GM. GM licensed the name for marketing reasons.

    I have an actual Allison 6 speed in my motorhome. I really wish that it had one or two more gears. You do not notice the gear spacing much when lightly loaded but as you allude to it is much more important when heavily loaded. Most people buying a 3/4 ton or up expect to load it heavily at times. My motorhome is always heavy.
  • cptqueeg's avatar
    cptqueeg
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    Sep 15, 2020
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    gmckenzie wrote:
    I don't have one, but have been looking at them.

    I would not expect a 10 speed until 2022 at the earliest. This is my biggest disappointment and one reason I may end up with Ford and the 7.3L.

    I know the GM factories had a strike early in the year and then Covid hit, so dealerships where I am don't even have the **** things to look at or test. And they have stopped taking 2020 orders and are not taking 2021 orders yet. Applies to both Ford and GM.


    My Chev dealer was ready to take an order for a 2021 HD a month ago.
  • noteven's avatar
    noteven
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    Sep 15, 2020
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    Grit dog wrote:
    noteven wrote:
    Is there something wrong with the Allison transmission in GM pickups?

    Other than it doesn't have 4 overdrive speeds mostly useless for towing?


    Other than the gasser trucks haven’t had the Allison option since the 8.1L days, nothing is wrong with the Allison.


    GM calls Allison: "We need more speeds... consumers want speeds!"

    Allison: "Why?"

    GM: "Because Ford has more speeds..."

    Allison: "But Ford uses 140 cubic inch engines..."

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colliehauler wrote:
Krusty wrote:
Ford's 10R80 transmission was a joint venture between Ford and GM. It is a light duty transmission used in vehicles like the F150 and Mustang. It is not an HD transmission that would be suitable in the HD trucks.
Thanks for the clarification.


I suspect that the 10R140 used in Super Duty trucks is closely related to the 10R80, just scaled up for the extra torque. I don't understand why GM took so long to do the same thing.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-09-18T05:23:19.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-09-18T05:23:19.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":792},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3409985/message:3410023","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"530","rawBody":"
colliehauler wrote:
Krusty wrote:
Ford's 10R80 transmission was a joint venture between Ford and GM. It is a light duty transmission used in vehicles like the F150 and Mustang. It is not an HD transmission that would be suitable in the HD trucks.
Thanks for the clarification.


I suspect that the 10R140 used in Super Duty trucks is closely related to the 10R80, just scaled up for the extra torque. I don't understand why GM took so long to do the same thing.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3410023_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"Rank:rank:40":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:40","position":31,"name":"Explorer III","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:175156":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:175156","uid":175156,"login":"colliehauler","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-01-27T10:51:56.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:175156"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3410022":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3410022","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3410022":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:175156"},"id":"message:3410022","revisionNum":1,"uid":3410022,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3409985"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3409985"},"subject":"Re: GM 6.6 gas","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3410022"},"body":"
Krusty wrote:
Ford's 10R80 transmission was a joint venture between Ford and GM. It is a light duty transmission used in vehicles like the F150 and Mustang. It is not an HD transmission that would be suitable in the HD trucks.
Thanks for the clarification.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-09-17T18:12:29.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-09-17T18:12:29.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":791},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3409985/message:3410022","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"285","rawBody":"
Krusty wrote:
Ford's 10R80 transmission was a joint venture between Ford and GM. It is a light duty transmission used in vehicles like the F150 and Mustang. It is not an HD transmission that would be suitable in the HD trucks.
Thanks for the clarification.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3410022_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:209251":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:209251","uid":209251,"login":"lly-zf6","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2007-04-21T04:30:27.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:209251"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3410021":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3410021","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3410021":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:209251"},"id":"message:3410021","revisionNum":1,"uid":3410021,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3409985"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3409985"},"subject":"Re: GM 6.6 gas","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3410021"},"body":"
trailrider wrote:
Dadoffourgirls wrote:
Must be there are only 3 RVers that own a 6.6 gas engine, based on the responses. Must be many that go for the Duramax.


That is the result of dealers only ordering diesels to put on the lot. It is almost impossible to find a gas powered HD pickup sitting on a lot. Unless you want a white work truck.


There is some truth to that statement.
I just bought mine a few weeks ago.
My dealer ran a 250 mile radius trace for a LT double cab gasser.
There was a total of 1 on the lots.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-09-17T10:26:41.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-09-17T10:26:41.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":786},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3409985/message:3410021","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"615","rawBody":"
trailrider wrote:
Dadoffourgirls wrote:
Must be there are only 3 RVers that own a 6.6 gas engine, based on the responses. Must be many that go for the Duramax.


That is the result of dealers only ordering diesels to put on the lot. It is almost impossible to find a gas powered HD pickup sitting on a lot. Unless you want a white work truck.


There is some truth to that statement.
I just bought mine a few weeks ago.
My dealer ran a 250 mile radius trace for a LT double cab gasser.
There was a total of 1 on the lots.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3410021_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:2858":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:2858","uid":2858,"login":"trailrider","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2002-06-29T19:55:58.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-2.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:2858"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3410020":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3410020","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3410020":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:2858"},"id":"message:3410020","revisionNum":1,"uid":3410020,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3409985"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3409985"},"subject":"Re: GM 6.6 gas","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3410020"},"body":"
Dadoffourgirls wrote:
Must be there are only 3 RVers that own a 6.6 gas engine, based on the responses. Must be many that go for the Duramax.


That is the result of dealers only ordering diesels to put on the lot. It is almost impossible to find a gas powered HD pickup sitting on a lot. Unless you want a white work truck.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-09-16T18:11:51.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-09-16T18:11:51.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":789},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3409985/message:3410020","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"364","rawBody":"
Dadoffourgirls wrote:
Must be there are only 3 RVers that own a 6.6 gas engine, based on the responses. Must be many that go for the Duramax.


That is the result of dealers only ordering diesels to put on the lot. It is almost impossible to find a gas powered HD pickup sitting on a lot. 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noteven wrote:
Grit dog wrote:
noteven wrote:
Is there something wrong with the Allison transmission in GM pickups?

Other than it doesn't have 4 overdrive speeds mostly useless for towing?


Other than the gasser trucks haven’t had the Allison option since the 8.1L days, nothing is wrong with the Allison.


GM calls Allison: \"We need more speeds... consumers want speeds!\"

Allison: \"Why?\"

GM: \"Because Ford has more speeds...\"

Allison: \"But Ford uses 140 cubic inch engines...\"


Too many Molsons?
You’re not making sense son...","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-09-15T08:42:53.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-09-15T08:42:53.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":786},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3409985/message:3410017","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"698","rawBody":"
noteven wrote:
Grit dog wrote:
noteven wrote:
Is there something wrong with the Allison transmission in GM pickups?

Other than it doesn't have 4 overdrive speeds mostly useless for towing?


Other than the gasser trucks haven’t had the Allison option since the 8.1L days, nothing is wrong with the Allison.


GM calls Allison: \"We need more speeds... consumers want speeds!\"

Allison: \"Why?\"

GM: \"Because Ford has more speeds...\"

Allison: \"But Ford uses 140 cubic inch engines...\"


Too many Molsons?
You’re not making sense son...","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3410017_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3410016":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3410016","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3410016":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:374904"},"id":"message:3410016","revisionNum":1,"uid":3410016,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3409985"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3409985"},"subject":"Re: GM 6.6 gas","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3410016"},"body":"
noteven wrote:
Grit dog wrote:
noteven wrote:
Is there something wrong with the Allison transmission in GM pickups?

Other than it doesn't have 4 overdrive speeds mostly useless for towing?


Other than the gasser trucks haven’t had the Allison option since the 8.1L days, nothing is wrong with the Allison.


GM calls Allison: \"We need more speeds... consumers want speeds!\"

Allison: \"Why?\"

GM: \"Because Ford has more speeds...\"

Allison: \"But Ford uses 140 cubic inch engines...\"



Allison does not build transmissions for GM. GM licensed the name for marketing reasons.

I have an actual Allison 6 speed in my motorhome. I really wish that it had one or two more gears. You do not notice the gear spacing much when lightly loaded but as you allude to it is much more important when heavily loaded. Most people buying a 3/4 ton or up expect to load it heavily at times. My motorhome is always heavy.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-09-15T08:24:12.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-09-15T08:24:12.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":785},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3409985/message:3410016","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1083","rawBody":"
noteven wrote:
Grit dog wrote:
noteven wrote:
Is there something wrong with the Allison transmission in GM pickups?

Other than it doesn't have 4 overdrive speeds mostly useless for towing?


Other than the gasser trucks haven’t had the Allison option since the 8.1L days, nothing is wrong with the Allison.


GM calls Allison: \"We need more speeds... consumers want speeds!\"

Allison: \"Why?\"

GM: \"Because Ford has more speeds...\"

Allison: \"But Ford uses 140 cubic inch engines...\"



Allison does not build transmissions for GM. GM licensed the name for marketing reasons.

I have an actual Allison 6 speed in my motorhome. I really wish that it had one or two more gears. You do not notice the gear spacing much when lightly loaded but as you allude to it is much more important when heavily loaded. Most people buying a 3/4 ton or up expect to load it heavily at times. My motorhome is always heavy.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3410016_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:27502":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:27502","uid":27502,"login":"cptqueeg","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2020-04-11T06:49:21.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:27502"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3410015":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3410015","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3410015":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:27502"},"id":"message:3410015","revisionNum":1,"uid":3410015,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3409985"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3409985"},"subject":"Re: GM 6.6 gas","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3410015"},"body":"
gmckenzie wrote:
I don't have one, but have been looking at them.

I would not expect a 10 speed until 2022 at the earliest. This is my biggest disappointment and one reason I may end up with Ford and the 7.3L.

I know the GM factories had a strike early in the year and then Covid hit, so dealerships where I am don't even have the **** things to look at or test. And they have stopped taking 2020 orders and are not taking 2021 orders yet. Applies to both Ford and GM.


My Chev dealer was ready to take an order for a 2021 HD a month ago.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-09-15T06:51:53.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-09-15T06:51:53.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":786},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3409985/message:3410015","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"600","rawBody":"
gmckenzie wrote:
I don't have one, but have been looking at them.

I would not expect a 10 speed until 2022 at the earliest. This is my biggest disappointment and one reason I may end up with Ford and the 7.3L.

I know the GM factories had a strike early in the year and then Covid hit, so dealerships where I am don't even have the **** things to look at or test. And they have stopped taking 2020 orders and are not taking 2021 orders yet. Applies to both Ford and GM.


My Chev dealer was ready to take an order for a 2021 HD a month ago.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3410015_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:165179":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:165179","uid":165179,"login":"noteven","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2011-02-13T04:03:29.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:165179"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3410014":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3410014","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3410014":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:165179"},"id":"message:3410014","revisionNum":1,"uid":3410014,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3409985"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3409985"},"subject":"Re: GM 6.6 gas","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3410014"},"body":"
Grit dog wrote:
noteven wrote:
Is there something wrong with the Allison transmission in GM pickups?

Other than it doesn't have 4 overdrive speeds mostly useless for towing?


Other than the gasser trucks haven’t had the Allison option since the 8.1L days, nothing is wrong with the Allison.


GM calls Allison: \"We need more speeds... consumers want speeds!\"

Allison: \"Why?\"

GM: \"Because Ford has more speeds...\"

Allison: \"But Ford uses 140 cubic inch engines...\"","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-09-15T06:37:37.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-09-15T06:37:37.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":787},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3409985/message:3410014","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"588","rawBody":"
Grit dog wrote:
noteven wrote:
Is there something wrong with the Allison transmission in GM pickups?

Other than it doesn't have 4 overdrive speeds mostly useless for towing?


Other than the gasser trucks haven’t had the Allison option since the 8.1L days, nothing is wrong with the Allison.


GM calls Allison: \"We need more speeds... consumers want speeds!\"

Allison: \"Why?\"

GM: \"Because Ford has more speeds...\"

Allison: \"But Ford uses 140 cubic inch engines...\"","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3410014_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1741694506000","value":{"ariaLabelClosed":"Press the down arrow to open the menu"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741694506000","value":{"escalationMessage":"Escalated to Salesforce by {username} on {date}","viewDetails":"View Details","modalTitle":"Case Details","escalatedBy":"Escalated by: ","escalatedOn":"Escalated on: ","caseNumber":"Case Number: ","status":"Status: ","lastUpdateDate":"Last Update: ","automaticEscalation":"automatic escalation","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741694506000","value":{"authorName":"View Profile: {author}","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741694506000","value":{"rankName":"{rankName}","userRank":"Author rank {rankName}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741694506000","value":{"postTime":"Published: {time}","lastPublishTime":"Last Update: {time}","conversation.lastPostingActivityTime":"Last posting activity time: {time}","conversation.lastPostTime":"Last post time: {time}","moderationData.rejectTime":"Rejected time: {time}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741694506000","value":{"solved":"Solved"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741694506000","value":{"noSubject":"(no subject)"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741694506000","value":{"showMessageBody":"Show More","mentionsErrorTitle":"{mentionsType, select, board {Board} user {User} message {Message} other {}} No Longer Available","mentionsErrorMessage":"The {mentionsType} you are trying to view has been removed from the community.","videoProcessing":"Video is being processed. 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