GM financial woes have begun

travelnutz wrote:
BillyW,

kaydeejay just got done explaining to you that the power brakes doesn't go away for a minimum of 3 brake uses AFTER the engine shuts down. You can cross that off your list. Besides that, atthe 58 mph her vehicle was traveling, it doesn't even need power assist on the brakes so why couldn't she stop or have slowed down?

Next, she didn't need even need any power steering as she was traveling 58 mph, not turning a corner, and she blew thru the intersection. She could have very easily turned the front wheels if she wanted to. There's no explanation or reason for her to not have control other than her excessive speed for the conditions. She HAD brakes AND steering! Cross the steering off too as it doesn't lock when the vehicle is in gear. Number 2 is gone!

Did she even need her accelerator? Are you kidding? She was already traveling too fast for the conditions and you think she needed to go even faster??? Cross that gem off your list too!

Anymore foolish claims?

Maybe what you drive has these possibilities you described but her vehicle does/did NOT!

She was simply driving too fast for the conditions and blew thru the intersection and was hit in her passenger side door by the vehicle coming on her right. Jamming on her brakes on the wet pavement and/or jerking the steering wheel or both on the wet pavement most likely caused her to lose control but nobody knows for sure but her and she can't tell what happened. Well, maybe it's now OK to drive 58 mph or the speed limit what ever it is because, Hey, that's the posted speed limit!

Her estate was sued as she blew thru the intersection at 58 mph causing the accident and GM would be a fool to pay a dime of the law suit. The 58 mph side impact damage from the other vehicle on her passenger's side may very well have caused the problem with the airbags not going off in Melton's vehicle. Do you know where the sensor controls are for the front airbags? I didn't think so!

With that logic, any failure of the airbag systems in any vehicle would be a moot point since there wouldn't have been a failure if there wasn't an accident. Heck, if the girl hadn't been out driving, none of this would have happened, so it's the fault of the state for giving her a license and letting her drive in the first place. Maybe it's the fault of whomever sold or provided the vehicle, since she wouldn't have been driving if she hadn't had a car.
Apparently to you, power steering, power brakes and antilock brakes do not provide any benefit in handling a vehicle, take them away with no warning and there will be no difference in how the car handles in an emergency. And now it is OK for airbags to not deploy if there is an impact on a vehicle in a location other than the front? Good to know since many front airbag deployments occur when a vehicle makes secondary impact after being hit elsewhere, exactly like it apparently failed to deploy in this collision. I always had heard the exact opposite was true and that the airbag system had multiple redundant controls to prevent exactly that failure scenario.
But all of these arguments are really a smokescreen to hide fact that it appears GM knew of the defect in the ignition and covered it up, willing to accept the cost of paying claims as a cheaper alternative to fixing the problem and then continued to cover it up through the bankruptcy process creating a situation where those injured prior to that bankruptcy are now barred by law from seeking damages. If it had not been covered up, those potential lawsuits and settlements would have been considered by the court and most likely funds would have bee withheld from the general creditors who got paid and placed into a trust account for those injured parties to ultimately be paid from. Instead those funds went to the pay those creditors who ultimately got more than they should have from the bankruptcy proceedings. And in the case of GMs bankruptcy, which was different than any bankruptcy before or after, those creditors were not the normal suppliers, lenders or bond holders but were the pension accounts, the union health funds and ultimately the GM itself, since the amount it had to borrow from the US Treasury to make themselves viable was less than it would have been had it accounted for those claims. Since the same management that hid the problems and the potential liability is the same management that kept their jobs and were awarded bonuses when GM emerged from bankruptcy protection, that makes it a fraud that current GM management actively benefited from.