GM, Ford Fudging Payload Ratings

fla-gypsy wrote:
With the actual payload sticker in the door post it seems idiotic to use a brochure number to begin with.

^^^^ That's the bottom line. there's a lot of options (like bumpers and spare tires!) that reduce payload. One particularly big option in the Ford Superduty line is the diesel. RAM and GM list their "base" diesel payloads, but never seen that in a Ford brochure.

BenK wrote:
Again...been saying the 'curb' is the 'stripper' for years and years...

Ben, with all due respect, this revelation from Ford and GM does not prove your point. There is a big difference between using a base model truck with no options and actually removing parts from the base model truck. In a recent thread, someone asked about a Nissan Armada payload, and you said the payload was calculated on a "stripper" Armada without power windows, power locks, etc. That is simply not correct, because Armadas all have power windows and power locks. The "stripper" model Armada has all of those things. Now, if we eventually discover that Nissan is removing the power window motors and power lock actuators just like GM is removing rear bumpers, then your point would be correct.

With the actual payload sticker in the door post it seems idiotic to use a brochure number to begin with.

Powerdude wrote:
Wow.

Manufacturers lie.

Who woulda thunk it?

I would call it stretching the truth!

Marty

Wow.

Manufacturers lie.

Who woulda thunk it?

Old-Biscuit wrote:
Ah........the 'fine print' has it covered

* Maximum capacity when properly equipped. See your Ford dealer for specific equipment requirements and other limitations
* Note: The following chart lists GVWRs and Maximum Cargo Weights (with minimum equipment) by engine for each approved pickup model
* Requires Heavy-Duty Payload Package option.
* Requires Camper Package option.
* Content may vary depending on model, trim and/or powertrain.

And we are surprised by this? :)

Ah........the 'fine print' has it covered

* Maximum capacity when properly equipped. See your Ford dealer for specific equipment requirements and other limitations
* Note: The following chart lists GVWRs and Maximum Cargo Weights (with minimum equipment) by engine for each approved pickup model
* Requires Heavy-Duty Payload Package option.
* Requires Camper Package option.
* Content may vary depending on model, trim and/or powertrain.

My idea has been to always buy more than you will need that way you will (should) have enough..not easy I know...

Again...been saying the 'curb' is the 'stripper' for years and years...

Easy to confirm with brochure spec's

Take any vehicles GCWR - MTWR = curb and that is the stripper model

Weigh that TV and subtract that from GCWR and it will NOT = MTWR

Ditto payload. Ditto cargo capacity

Notice that some are now outed that they will deny warranty if they
can prove over the ratings

Don't even need strain gauges these days either...their computerized
systems can tell the range by how the drive train behaves.

HERE is another article stating some similar things.

Be this good or bad, but just shows as many have posted before. DO NOT TRUST brochure wts and figures, as the truck is stripped! really stripped as the case may be.

marty