GM Strike

JIMNLIN wrote:
Yeah this is a issue in all unions as unions are smart enough to know which party will support unions/members and which party and their supporters want to do away with them.

Reading this thread is a good example of that.

How does it help US jobs of we have open borders for workers from foreign countries, more free trade agreements, and lower tariffs on countries we already have huge trade discrepancies with? These are policies of certain political party that most unions support and will have a negative impact on US jobs. It may seem that they look like they support unions by what they say, but some of their actions and policies prove otherwise.

I think Mary Barra is hot.

danrclem wrote:
There is a two tier wage system and temporary workers because the union gave it their blessing.

GM workers getting higher wages and benefits will probably result in less sales for GM because the prices of their vehicles will have to be higher. The unions are political entities and maybe they want to help trigger a recession for obvious political reasons.

Could be worse. Maybe for political reasons maybe the other entity would love to get rid of unions so workers can make less money.

There is a two tier wage system and temporary workers because the union gave it their blessing.

GM workers getting higher wages and benefits will probably result in less sales for GM because the prices of their vehicles will have to be higher. The unions are political entities and maybe they want to help trigger a recession for obvious political reasons.

Yeah this is a issue in all unions as unions are smart enough to know which party will support unions/members and which party and their supporters want to do away with them.

Reading this thread is a good example of that.

Groover wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

Groover wrote:
Charlie D.
"Along with GM, Ford and Chrysler are existing or greatly reducing their car businesses in favor of trucks, crossovers and SUVs. Honda has said they believe there is still a market for sedans and it appears the other auto makers feel the same way."

There seems to be a correlation between having the in your shop UAW and and having a competitive car. If it wasn't for the "chicken tax" we would probably be having the same thing happen with truck production.

And if it wasn't for the UAW, there would not be a chicken tax. They were the ones who requested that President LBJ add it to the tariff and continue to lobby for it, not the big three.

So why aren't the unions doing more to support tariffs and calling out those who say that tariffs are bad?

My guess, because it is a republican calling for higher tariffs not a democrat, and the UAW (and most unions)traditionally supports only democrats. However, if you look at their lobbying, most unions actually support higher foreign tariffs.

Funny thing regarding this though. My brother is apart of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, and he told me the local leaders just had a reckoning the last meeting after the members found out that the union gave money to mostly(over 95%) democratic candidates even though roughly 90% of the local members vote the other way. He said the members are proposing that they get a vote one where the money goes.

ShinerBock wrote:

Groover wrote:
Charlie D.
"Along with GM, Ford and Chrysler are existing or greatly reducing their car businesses in favor of trucks, crossovers and SUVs. Honda has said they believe there is still a market for sedans and it appears the other auto makers feel the same way."

There seems to be a correlation between having the in your shop UAW and and having a competitive car. If it wasn't for the "chicken tax" we would probably be having the same thing happen with truck production.

And if it wasn't for the UAW, there would not be a chicken tax. They were the ones who requested that President LBJ add it to the tariff and continue to lobby for it, not the big three.

So why aren't the unions doing more to support tariffs and calling out those who say that tariffs are bad?

Groover wrote:
Charlie D.
"Along with GM, Ford and Chrysler are existing or greatly reducing their car businesses in favor of trucks, crossovers and SUVs. Honda has said they believe there is still a market for sedans and it appears the other auto makers feel the same way."

There seems to be a correlation between having the in your shop UAW and and having a competitive car. If it wasn't for the "chicken tax" we would probably be having the same thing happen with truck production.

And if it wasn't for the UAW, there would not be a chicken tax. They were the ones who requested that President LBJ add it to the tariff and continue to lobby for it, not the big three.

Charlie D.
"Along with GM, Ford and Chrysler are existing or greatly reducing their car businesses in favor of trucks, crossovers and SUVs. Honda has said they believe there is still a market for sedans and it appears the other auto makers feel the same way."

There seems to be a correlation between having the in your shop UAW and and having a competitive car. If it wasn't for the "chicken tax" we would probably be having the same thing happen with truck production.

The UAW and it's leaders are not perfect. They are human and fallible just like anyone else. The UAW is like any other company with workers and executives ensuring that they remain relevant and profitable. There will be good, and there will be bad. However, you can't just dismiss the bad as "fake news" or bashing just because you don't want to see anything negative about it simply because you favor the UAW and other unions. You should strive to get the truth regardless of your bias feelings. In other words, let the truth change your beliefs, not your beliefs change the truth.

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