How does everyone feel about all the GM union members on strike placing nails and screws out onto the streets that their customers who keep them employed drive on? Causing damage to multiple vehicles. I wonder why I haven't bought a GM in years and this puts the nail to it that I would never again. Once those employees do things like this damaging vehicles of the people who purchase their vehicles in turn keeping them employed is a bunch of BS. This isn't the 60's and 70's anymore... people need to grow up and be civilized.

Don't be quick to condemn an entire company or group of workers based on the inappropriate actions of a few.I'm part of a small union in our company. We have around 1600 members. Yes, there are a few that take advantage of the union security and don't work as hard as they should. And there are a few who are very vocal. But, 99% of the folks work hard and are good people.

From what I read they were blocking entrances to the plants, not to customers buying product. Scabs get treated as scabs. Desperate people resort to desperate measures. Some things need to be protested, regardless of the decade.

I can't believe they went on strike. I read what GM offered them and it was very generous. It seems that GM offered them lump sum profit sharing bonus, but they wanted a set in stone regardless if it is a down year or not. I would have to side with GM on this especially since it was partly those set in stone increases and pensions that made them go bankrupt in 2008. I think it is fair for a bonus to be based on profits and can fluctuate depending on the economy. Yeah, you may not get as much on a down year, but at least the company will not go bankrupt and you have a chance to make more once the economy goes up instead of being out of a job.

Since the bond holders, stock holders and taxpayers took the hit to save their sorry butts, I have not or will not ever buy GM again. That was my "pension plan" transferred to theirs. Yes, I took a big hit, but made out great with the Ford investment.

Unions are slowly killing themselves.

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Grit_dog
Navigator
Sep 28, 2019
thomasmnile wrote:
Ever eat a Domino's pizza? Don't think there's any chefs involved there.:B

Dude, have you had Dominos in the last few years? They're not bad now. Not the tomato paste cardboard of years past! Still prefer PapaJohns for cardboard pizza though! For the garlic butter sauce!

#relevantpost?
Groover
Explorer II
Sep 28, 2019
tomman58 wrote:
Another day of BS on this page. Bottom line still is .... if you are not an autoworker then you have no horse in the race... period.

I buy products made by UAW workers. Virtually everyone on this site does too and we all have finite resources so we have to make tough choices on how to spend our money. The feeling that a bunch of our money is going to whiny crybabies making twice the going wage and 4 times the benefits for this area does not make me one bit happy. I have said it before, if they don't like the job for what it pays quit and let someone who wants the job have it. There is no shortage of willing workers around the Spring Hill plant. And don't be shocked if my next car comes from the Kia plant in West Point Georgia. The one that I have has delivered tremendous value. If they ever start making pickups there the UAW is really going to start feeling the heat. But don't blame me when that happens because I have no horse in this race.
Lynnmor
Explorer
Sep 28, 2019
tomman58 wrote:
Another day of BS on this page. Bottom line still is .... if you are not an autoworker then you have no horse in the race... period.

Yes, you bond and stock holders, you taxpayers, just shut up and pay the pensions of these fine folks. Your retirement is of no importance.
fj12ryder
Explorer III
Sep 28, 2019
tomman58 wrote:
Another day of BS on this page. Bottom line still is .... if you are not an autoworker then you have no horse in the race... period.
Maybe, maybe not. Don't forget what Wilson said, "...what was good for our country was good for General Motors, and vice versa."
JRscooby
Explorer II
Sep 28, 2019
tomman58 wrote:
Another day of BS on this page. Bottom line still is .... if you are not an autoworker then you have no horse in the race... period.

Not sure about that. I reserve the right to cheer for working people, and working Americans above all.
ppine
Explorer II
Sep 28, 2019
If it weren't for unions, auto workers would still be making $10 an hour and buying at the company store.
tomman58
Explorer
Sep 28, 2019
Another day of BS on this page. Bottom line still is .... if you are not an autoworker then you have no horse in the race... period.
Bert_Ackerman
Explorer
Sep 28, 2019
time2roll wrote:
NJRVer wrote:
time2roll wrote:
NJRVer wrote:
So you see nothing wrong with Making $15 an hour to assemble autos?

Domino's Pizza pays $15hr to deliver pizza in these parts and you also get tips.
It is a free country. Let those that want to deliver pizza do their thing and those that want to assemble autos do their thing.

Top chef for Dominos and the automotive engineers are the one's that will pull down the real money. Time to go back to school.

2008 GM CEO $14.9 million
2009 UAW worker $28hr.

2019 GM CEO $21.87 million
2019 UAW worker $30hr.
And what does the CEO of Dominos make?

Yes I also believe executive pay is excessive on its own and outrageous compared to the line workers in just about every company. Maybe the union should press for lower CEO and executive pay along with the line workers negotiation.

And what does the Union CEO make BTW?

https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/ceo-who-raised-minimum-salary-of-employees-to-70k-is-doing-it-again/

LOL....Dominos has about 811 million in revenue and their CEO gets compensated in the neighborhood of 9.5 million.

GM has revenue of about 147 billion, and poor Mary slums along with 21 million.

I smell a Rat.

Mary should get a few million bonus simply based on the firmness of her calves and her selection of heels.
thomasmnile
Explorer
Sep 28, 2019
Ever eat a Domino's pizza? Don't think there's any chefs involved there.:B
time2roll
Nomad
Sep 28, 2019
Google says $200,700. Not sure the benefits but seems reasonable to make over 6x the people he represents. Or does it?

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