GMC vs Nissan diesel

goducks10 wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
Little off topic....errr I mean back on topic.
Have any of you naysayers actually looked at a new XD diesel?
No denying it's no current generation HD, but it certainly looks a good bit heavier duty than the half ton competition.
I think Nissan hit the nail on the head for the "tweener" truck that is also a proven name in the diesel market, backed by a rock solid trans.

Have heard it for years, on the inner webs, lol. People wanted a 1/2 ton diesel with more power than the gassers. Ram was first and concentrated on fuel Econ. Nissan is in 2nd with more power and capability.
No, it's no magical 25-30 mpg Eco d, but it's got more snort and a much heavier chassis. Power might not seem "awesome", but I bet they can bump it up easy if they want to or actually get some direct competition. No sense blowing their wad first year.


GM didn't give the Dmax 360/650 in 2001, even though it was only a tune away and totally reliable power even in a LB7. They just stayed at or above the competition as needed.

Would I ever buy one? Not likely. I need a heavier truck than that......once in a while. If I didn't need a heavier truck, and actually would own a Jap truck, it would be a contender. Just like it will be for many I think.

I'd get an F150 3.5 EB with max tow before I'd get the XD. Same money give r take, plenty of power and more payload. Just a guess but I bet the new higher TQ/HP Eco Boost will out tow the XD. And get better mpg empty. Plus you can get the Scab with an 8' bed. I really think the XD missed the mark. Towers were complaining that they wanted more mpg, less power when the big 3 were and are still playing the ratings game. Problem is the XD didn't give them the less HP/TQ more MPG thing they wanted. On top of that the payload is weak. Most buyers in the 1/2 ton or 1/2 ton plus catogory aren't serious haulers, so the longevity of a diesel isn't that much of a draw. Most probably won't keep their trucks more than 5-7 years anyway.

I went from a 3.5 EB Max Tow Screw to a Titan XD SL 4x4 diesel. There is no comparison in how they tow. The Titan is hands down a much better experience.

The Titan XD fits a niche market. Someone who wants the stability of the frame and components, the power of a diesel but not the everyday ride of a 3/4 or 1 ton truck. My Titan rides about the same as my F150 did. I didn't want to drive a 3/4 ton truck on Southern California hideous freeways every day, just didn't want to do it. So I went with the Titan XD. It may not work for everyone but it works very well for me.