ShinerBock wrote:
JRscooby wrote:
NRALIFR wrote:
It can’t happen fast enough as far as I’m concerned.
This kind of thinking and innovation is what’s going to solve our climate/environmental problems, not the “Ban it (everything you’re currently doing) and cram it (my half-baked plan du jour down your throat) nonsense coming from politicians mouths.
:):)
Strange. Most of what I hear from politicians in power is "IT AIN'T HAPPENING!"
What I don't understand is person 1 can be driving the car he can afford, maintaining it as well as he can, gets a ticket because of a little smoke. At the same time, person 2, that can afford to drive what he wants, spends more than person 1 makes in 2 years for a truck, then gets on the 'net and brags about modifying the truck so it no longer meets the emission standards.
First you have not addressed the point without regulation the research into making the engines run cleaner.
Never seen this happen on the road and there have been plenty of times where I was behind a gas job that was spewing all sorts of smoke.
Most of the time it happens is in the suburbs. A guy in a new, shinny, lifted pickup can leave the light, blowing enough black smoke that pedestrians can disappear. But the maid on her way to clean the house of the rectum that just choked the kids walking to school can get a ticket because 20 year old Toyota is smoking as she slows for the light.
The other portion of this is who is making the regulation and depending on how you trust them. Many people do not even know what the regulation is yet they will blindly follow whatever the EPA states even though our regulations allow for more CO2 and CO than many other standards like the EU. The EU has a much higher NOx limit than the US which allows their diesels to run more efficiently and have much lower CO2 and CO limits which gas engines emit more of.
This is a problem. But I think a good part of the problem is unlike most of the developed world, somebody running for office in the government can say he will listen to god and money, not scientist. (Most people I know, if they mention the voices in their head we beg them to get back on meds. But I guess if they could get on the news they could get elected)
There is also the factor that many of these emissions like NOx and PM are only harmful in heavily populated areas where it does not have a chance to dissipate, but since it is a one size fits all system, those of us in rural areas have to abide by the same emissions regulation (with less fuel economy and a more costly emissions system) all because someone wants to live in a city. Why should I have to pay the price because others do not want to move away from their favorite metro area coffee shop.
Let me see. A long time ago it was discovered for society to develop past substance farming cities are needed to concentrate market and labor. I think most who live in city do so because that is where the jobs are. It is pure ignorance to think any vehicle will pollute less driving 100 miles a day instead of 10.
But most important, who in sam hill is
forcing you or anybody else to pay the cost? When I lived on the farm, we used 2 pickups. When I got old enough to need one, I bought one that was 10 years old. As soon as we knew it would work we could pull the 14 year old one out of service long enough to rebuild the engine. Emission standards have been on heavy duty diesel pickups for what 13 years? If you don't want to pay the cost, drive the old truck, or buy a gasser.
