Goodyear Endurance Tires VS Carlisle Trail HD Tires

Thermoguy wrote:
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Talking to the Goodyear guy today about LT vs ST - ST tires are designed to go straight. Never get much abuse and only designed for rolling resistance. AN LT tire will not roll as well so might increase fuel cost, but a way better built tire. Whenever I have asked a tire professional about LT vs ST they can't tell me why one should buy an ST tire. And, if you need the extra few pounds of added load range, then maybe you should step up a load range anyway.

From everything I have heard or read, this statement is in error. The advantage of an ST tire is in the strength of the sidewalls. They are designed to stand up to the lateral loads produced by sharp turns, like when you are backing into tight camping spots. There are many arguments why an LT tire might be better, but this isn't one of them. Remember, when you talk to a salesman about any product other than what he is selling, be prepared for a sales pitch. Sounds like he hit pay dirt.

Another issue that needs to be discussed is the "China Bomb" label many are quick to attach. Just because a tire is made in China doesn't automatically make it bad. True, there are many that are but my main issue is with the company who sells them and the manufacturer that puts them on their trailers. I purchased a new Starcraft Hybrid that had Carlisle tires, LRC. These tires just barely met load standards and sure enough one blew within months of service. Carlisle paid for the replacement of all 5 of my choice.
Today, there are many tires that are improved and quite capable of carrying your trailer. I suggest that you buy from a reputable dealer who will stand behind their tires and that you get a load range that will easily meet the weight requirement. Marathons were junk. I had Marathons with early signs of tread separation. Put a set of Maxxis on that proved to be very good. Now have a set of the new Carlisle HD and they are even better. 5 years and over 24K miles and they still look new and require almost no additional air through the season. The new Goodyear is very good by all reports. Marathons were produced in China but only for a short time. They were bad before and bad after.

Congrats!

-Speak

Hi guys, here are my new Endurances. Manufactured on 26th week of 2020. About 3 months ago.

Endurance for me on both our trailers.

Had Carlisle Radial Trail RH as the first set on my TT. same size and load rating as the OP`s, no issue. the next set was another set of RH`s. 5 years later the new HD`s were out and I went with those. each set went 5 years and 15-20k miles with no issues. the OE set were cheap chinese tires that only lasted a year and 500 miles before 2 of them shifted a tread.

Carlisle tires of the last 10 years are far better than the Carlisle`s of 20 years ago.

Provider ST 81 mph rated tires were one of the first, having the new design of tire strengthened for higher speed and much better reliability. These came on my FW when new, and served me well.

The Providers first came out in the '10-'11 era on commercial trailers. I just replaced the 16" load E OEM Providers last summer with another set on a 2010 tandem axle 10k car hauler...no issues. After 9+ years and 28k miles of interstate use/dragging around pastures and construction worksites they made me nervous.
All four new Providers had 2 and 3 month old dot date codes and ordered per my request from a Discount Tire store near me.

Provider ST 81 mph rated tires were one of the first, having the new design of tire strengthened for higher speed and much better reliability. These came on my FW when new, and served me well. The Carlisle HD came a little later, with similar design, higher speed rating. In recent years the GY Endurance showed up, with same design, plus higher speed rating. IMO, all 3 are good, and the GY is made in USA, if you don't mind paying a premium for that. I've no experience with the Carlisle, other than what I've read. I will be replacing 4 tires in the Spring. I will likely go with the proven Providers, but will look into a deal on the Endurance. I am not worried about paying a LITTLE more for USA made, as China did not send that huge stimulus check, that I actually donated most of to a relative in need of a dental crown.

Jerry

Whatever, but I have had Carlisle Trail HD tires on two different travel trailers, had no problems with them, and wouldn't hesitate to buy them again.

I am always inclined to go top line Goodyear.

Thermoguy wrote:


I thought I could get away with my 7 year old Marathon tires this year as well. Found out that I couldn't. 2 of the 4 had major bulges and had to be removed on the spot. One blew on a trip, but I can blame that on the shackels braking and not the tire. But, the point is, and everyone on here will tell you, 7 years is too long for a trailer tire.

Where are your 2 bad tires located? The one failed on mine is at the right front side and the diagonally opposing one also showed signs of belt separation. The other 2 still looks good with a bit of tread left.

Everyone here is talking about replacing trailer tires every 7 years. My last set of Marathon still looked good after 19 years when I sold off my last TT as a reclamation project. These Marathon were made in Canada in the '90 though. We didn't travel enough to wear them down
to get new tires. We keep the pressure up on every trip, park at home out of the sun and keep an close eye on them for dry rot or uneven wear pattern.