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PippinAin_tEasy's avatar
Aug 08, 2014

Greenhorn Jitters

Gentlemen (and women), fire up your opinions. This brand spankin' newbie just bought the 2014 Ram Big Horn Crew Cab 6'4" bed 5.7 Hemi with 3.92 in the rear end and towing pkg with integrated brake controller. On Monday we're going to pick up (unless logic dictates otherwise) a 2014 Crossroads Zinger travel trailer model ZT32qb. Trailer specs are as follows: 6900# dry weight, 9500# GVWR, 33' 10" overall length. Got it? Good. Now the fun begins.
Yonder website ramtrucks.com says that my truck (after plugging in the VIN in their fancy calculator) is rated for 1600# cargo and 10250# towing. Now I understand that as you add cargo to the vehicle yer towing capabilities have to slide accordingly and that's fine with me. I've got no beef with physics. Here's the brown trout in the beer cooler. Sticker inside the door says do not exceed total 1404# passenger + cargo. Fine.
Enter trailer tongue weight. For those who've never had to deal with this realm of interpretive math I am envious. Tongue weight is variable (unless I'm mistaken) by yer trailer's weight when loaded with all you'll be taking. As long as you know how to load a trailer properly this number is ideally 10-15% of loaded trailer weight. By my estimation my trailer will come in right at 8400# cocked, locked, and ready to rock giving me an (ideal) tongue weight of 840#. But wait, there's more. Add 2 lp tanks @ 70# a pop, a 70# deep cycle battery and now yer up at a grand on yer class IV receiver. What's the weight limit of a class IV receiver? Depends. Some say 1000 tongue/10000 tow, some say 1200 tongue/12000 tow. Hmmm.
Well, now you know what I know. Here's my big question. Understanding that this rig is knocking fervently on the door of max duty ratings how nuts is it to take it on the highways and byways of 'Merica? Would you? I'm sitting on a fairly high sphincter/pucker ratio at the moment and I can't wait to hear what all you seasoned veterans have to say. Before I hit "post" I should include that the only things in the truck proper while towing will be me, the woman, the boy (15 months) and a couple of dogs. Grand total on that is 425#. Ya'll have a good weekend, I'll be here.

---Ray
  • I have a very similar truck, with an RV that's shorter, and lighter by over 1k lbs.

    I have no issues. That said, I wouldn't really want much over that.

    10% tongue weight is low. Most want at least 12-15%

    You'll be at least 1k lbs on the tongue, and over 400 in the truck. You'll have maxed out your payload.

    Some old school guys will say don't worry about it, it's just an arbitrary number. Others will say it's dangerous and how dare you drive on the same road as me.

    All I know is, with my truck, I'm happy I don't have a larger TT. I have no issues myself, and don't want the hassle of more weight or length.
  • JnJnKatiebug wrote:
    Just my opinion-If you are going down the road to camp or over to the next state 200 miles away you will be fine. But, on the other hand, if you plan on heading out across country for 1500 miles I think you will wish you had a bigger truck.


    X2. I have twice over the years knowingly towed trailers very close to my rated capacities. It worked fine and I never once felt unsafe, but it was clear from vehicle performance that anything more than short trips on relatively flat roads was going to be too much for the combinations. Much better towing experience and more flexibility in trip planning when you have lots of reserve capacity.
  • You'll probably be right at the max when you but the WDH on. Otherwise you'll be over on payload with out the WDH.
  • Just my opinion-If you are going down the road to camp or over to the next state 200 miles away you will be fine. But, on the other hand, if you plan on heading out across country for 1500 miles I think you will wish you had a bigger truck.
  • It's close but certainly capable. All that "luxury" cost you in capability. IMO you shouldn't run over GVWR but some will disagree and swear you can tow anything. Only you can decide.