harbor freight 2200watt generator

Does it have any moving parts? Then suggest do not buy from HF.

OP,
In the end of all the information posted is good information. You have to decide what is good for you. What ever you choose will work, and who to by from.
Best of luck in your search.
Scott

mooring product wrote:

AISURFFISH wrote:

n7bsn wrote:

SkiMore wrote:

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You all are starting to sound like the Dorks on "Big Bang Theory"

BAZINGA!!!!

I now feel dumber after reading all this..

I'm smarter after reading it and appreciate someone explaining dB values.

AISURFFISH wrote:

n7bsn wrote:

SkiMore wrote:


Am I correct in saying that the distance from the source affects the measurement and that there probably is no way of knowing the distance that harbor freight and honda were when the took the measurements?

When I compare specs of two products and see one is 3dB louder how do I correlate that to how much more annoying the louder one will be?

I guess I'm asking how do I make the best use of the dB spec?

Yes distance matters, the formulas to calculate a change in distance can be, complex. Spherical spreading is easy, but that neglects any effects the ground would present (ground might absorb sound, or reflect sound )
Measurement methods matter also.

From reading the HF book, they measure the sound in roughly the same way and at the same distance (23 ft) as Honda

Most people can hear a 3dB difference, most people can't hear a 1dB difference. So you could tell a 3dB difference in a side-by-side, but in daily use you probably wouldn't notice the difference.

For the human ear (varies with frequency) twice as loud is roughly a 8 or 9 dB increase (10 dB is ten times the energy)

You all are starting to sound like the Dorks on "Big Bang Theory"

BAZINGA!!!!

I now feel dumber after reading all this..

Its not called Horrible Fright for nothing. Stay away, its garbadge. If you are looking for lower price look into Champion gennys. Costco and Sams carry them. They have a decent rep. HF blows.

n7bsn wrote:

SkiMore wrote:


Am I correct in saying that the distance from the source affects the measurement and that there probably is no way of knowing the distance that harbor freight and honda were when the took the measurements?

When I compare specs of two products and see one is 3dB louder how do I correlate that to how much more annoying the louder one will be?

I guess I'm asking how do I make the best use of the dB spec?

Yes distance matters, the formulas to calculate a change in distance can be, complex. Spherical spreading is easy, but that neglects any effects the ground would present (ground might absorb sound, or reflect sound )
Measurement methods matter also.

From reading the HF book, they measure the sound in roughly the same way and at the same distance (23 ft) as Honda

Most people can hear a 3dB difference, most people can't hear a 1dB difference. So you could tell a 3dB difference in a side-by-side, but in daily use you probably wouldn't notice the difference.

For the human ear (varies with frequency) twice as loud is roughly a 8 or 9 dB increase (10 dB is ten times the energy)

You all are starting to sound like the Dorks on "Big Bang Theory"

BAZINGA!!!!

SkiMore wrote:


Am I correct in saying that the distance from the source affects the measurement and that there probably is no way of knowing the distance that harbor freight and honda were when the took the measurements?

When I compare specs of two products and see one is 3dB louder how do I correlate that to how much more annoying the louder one will be?

I guess I'm asking how do I make the best use of the dB spec?

Yes distance matters, the formulas to calculate a change in distance can be, complex. Spherical spreading is easy, but that neglects any effects the ground would present (ground might absorb sound, or reflect sound )
Measurement methods matter also.

From reading the HF book, they measure the sound in roughly the same way and at the same distance (23 ft) as Honda

Most people can hear a 3dB difference, most people can't hear a 1dB difference. So you could tell a 3dB difference in a side-by-side, but in daily use you probably wouldn't notice the difference.

For the human ear (varies with frequency) twice as loud is roughly a 8 or 9 dB increase (10 dB is ten times the energy)

n7bsn wrote:

Raften wrote:

Captain Obvious wrote:
Another thing to consider is that sound is measured in db-decibels. A difference in 5db is 5 times louder. This generator is going to be much louder (64db vs 59) than the honda.

Five times louder, where can I get some info that supports a statement like that.

You can't, it ain't true

3dB increase == twice the POWER (not twice as LOUD)

5dB increase ~~ almost 4 times the POWER (still not 4 times as loud)

dB is logarithmic, not linear (ie 2x), the human ear is neither

(I made my living for many years worried about changes in sound level, trust me on this)

Am I correct in saying that the distance from the source affects the measurement and that there probably is no way of knowing the distance that harbor freight and honda were when the took the measurements?

When I compare specs of two products and see one is 3dB louder how do I correlate that to how much more annoying the louder one will be?

I guess I'm asking how do I make the best use of the dB spec?

First
I am a great fan of Harbor Freight tools, the best disposable tools you can buy.
If I know I only need something for light duty, I buy HF.

If I know I need a serious tool, I buy something else.

If I was getting a generator to use rarely and not worry too much if it failed. I would get HF.