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TucsonJim
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Sep 11, 2013

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So a couple of months ago, I purchased a '13 F350 Crew Cab SRW Diesel 4x4. It has the following specs:

TT Towing Capacity - 14,000
FW Towing Capacity - 15,900
GVWR - 11,300
Front GAWR - 5,200 at 65 psi
Rear GAWR - 6,730 at 80 psi

Now, this is where I get confused. The tire placard indicates cargo/passenger load is 3,422. I know I need to start with the 3,422 and subtract the passenger, cargo and hitch and pin weight. But do I need to also consider the weight of the diesel fuel? My guess is "no". But I think where I'm getting confused is the cargo capacity of the FW must include water and propane.
  • Norskeman, that's not the payload, TREAD act sticker. This sticker lists as equipped payload and assumes all fluids are full.

  • The GVWR is consumed by the truck weight and everything attached to the truck

    What I did - once I installed all of my add on's I took the truck to the local transfer station and checked the weight - 8050 lbs with me in the truck and 3/4 tank of fuel - hitch installed.

    Items I installed on the truck:
    Bed Rug bed liner, Luverne SS running boards, Air Lift LoadLifter 5000 air bags, Reese Custom Base and Rail Kit, Handy fifth wheel tail gate, rear wheel liners, rear seat storage tray, front lower bumper billet grill, Bushwacker bed rail cap, PML rear diff. cover, Bilstein 5100 shocks, GM steering stabilizer, Edge Insight CTS.

    The truck is rated to tow 13,000 lbs ball hitch and 16,800 fifth wheel hitch.

    My last CAT scale weight:

    Steer Axle - 4900 lbs
    Drive Axle - 6060 lbs
    Trailer Axle - 9220 lbs
    Gross Weight - 20,180 lbs

    Our CF335SS weight leaving the factory was 10,014 lbs "dry".

    There were 2 passengers in the truck, full tank of diesel (36 gallons) and 1 small dog. Trailer is packed for 2 weeks of camping and about 1/3 tank of water.

    Add on’s to the original weight out the factory door - Both propane tanks full, second 12V battery and 3 slide awnings.

    My door sticker:
  • bmanning wrote:
    :h

    I thought since 2007 (or whatever year it was mandated) the sticker reflected the cargo capacity for that specific truck (as optioned).

    If that's correct then OP's truck, as it sits, has 3422lb capacity.

    Could be wrong though...


    You're right but the problem with that TREAD Act sticker is that it is hard to measure the weight of the cargo you will add to the vehicle. It's a lot easier just to weigh the vehicle (and trailer in this case) as a whole and check those weights against the axle and total weight ratings. Easier, at least, in my experience. The sticker gives you a good idea of how much you can carry, though.
  • bmanning wrote:
    :h

    I thought since 2007 (or whatever year it was mandated) the sticker reflected the cargo capacity for that specific truck (as optioned).

    If that's correct then OP's truck, as it sits, has 3422lb capacity.

    Could be wrong though...


    You are correct. No need to subtract fuel or anything like that.
  • That's what I thougt too. And the attachement above seems to bear that out.
  • :h

    I thought since 2007 (or whatever year it was mandated) the sticker reflected the cargo capacity for that specific truck (as optioned).

    If that's correct then OP's truck, as it sits, has 3422lb capacity.

    Could be wrong though...
  • Thanks all. I'm trying to figure out what I can add from to the empty truck. Much easier to just load it up, get it weighed and go from there. BTW, great link MDAMERELL!
  • Ford 2013 tow spec's

    This pdf file may help.

    Yes, fuel does count. Load truck with people and gear as if ready to go. Weight truck, subtract from GVWR of truck = what you have left for pin and hitch (unless hitch already in bed) The weight rating of your tires will probably be your limiting factor.

    Good Luck.
  • the cargo capacity for the weight rating includes any thing that is added for weight.
    chevman heading to Casa Grande next week
  • Start by loading everything up in it you would normally have when traveling including family and drive to the scales. Subtract the scaled weight from the GVWR listed on the drivers door post. THAT is your net cargo carrying capacity. That 3422 number is the difference between a base trim level truck with the smallest gas motor and the GVWR. As you add stuff you also have to subtract weight.