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Cummins12V98 wrote:
Check with the people that use their trucks for a living or full time RVers. RAM then GM not too far behind then Ford at the back of the pace. GM and Ford have swapped positions in the last few years.

Hey who would not want a "SUPER DUTY" or "POWER STROKE" ? Marketing.

Here's a list of industries with Ford, Chevy, RAM... I couldn't find one with Ford in last place like you report... :h

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Check with the people that use their trucks for a living or full time RVers. RAM then GM not too far behind then Ford at the back of the pace. GM and Ford have swapped positions in the last few years.

Hey who would not want a "SUPER DUTY" or "POWER STROKE" ? Marketing.

Bedlam wrote:
I've been seeing more Ram trucks making it in the campgrounds lately, but the one we are currently in is 6.0 heaven. Easily 2/3rd of the park was filled with them this weekend holiday. Most are in the process of packing up and heading home at the end of this holiday, so it's not like the folks broke down and turned into long stay campers.

Agreed... Our recent trip to Florida I saw more 6.0 PSD Super Duty's 05-07 year's going one way than I saw all years of Dodge/RAM cummins powered trucks round trip. The presence of these 6.0 PSD was impressive and the lack of Cummins powered trucks of any year was surprising. I saw more RAM trucks in Texas than I did in LA, Miss, Al, FL.

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
No need to pull the cab to do injectors on the 6.0 but the 6.4 is another story or it could be just the dealership up charging.

Any of the trucks if chipped will not last long. Add in poor maintenance and you have a recipe for huge repair bills. As for working on a Power-Stoke or Dura-Max the Cummins is by far cheaper and easier to work on then the other two.

>Tory, try taking off those anti Ram glasses and maybe you might see them. But then you wouldn't have anything to talk about on RV.NET now would you. :W :B

Don

El Capo,
I have a family member who wrenches on RAM Cummins. His story is very similar to your's (Started with a Ford and then Chrysler) He started as a diesel tech for a Ford in '93 and in '11 switched to the RAM shop working on cummins. The Ford/Chrysler dealer he works at still sells Fords 3:1 over RAM's, but with the 6.7PSD the work wasn't there, so now he's full time RAM/cummins wrenching.

I've been seeing more Ram trucks making it in the campgrounds lately, but the one we are currently in is 6.0 heaven. Easily 2/3rd of the park was filled with them this weekend holiday. Most are in the process of packing up and heading home at the end of this holiday, so it's not like the folks broke down and turned into long stay campers.

Everyone knows there were problems. There also are a lot of good ones. Next trip you take count how many you see on the road compared to other brands. Better yet, walk around the cg and see how many are there. If they were all junk as some folks here think would you see any?

My experience with this engine is that GOOD GAUGES ARE ESSENTIAL and can catch small problems before they become big problems. The Ford idiot lights are useless. Before buying a 6.0 one needs to know the temperature delta on the EOT and ECT. By keeping this at <15 degrees, most of the expensive repair issues can be avoided. Blown EGR coolers and head gaskets are a direct result of a plugged oil cooler and the only way to monitor this is by using good gauges.
The STC fitting on the oil cooler is known to be a weak point and can cause hot no-start issues but an updated part is available and is not that expensive to replace.
The other one is the fuel pressure that the ECU does not monitor but can be easily checked by an external pressure gauge.
If you know the weak points and check them before buying you'll have a workhorse of an engine.

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
No need to pull the cab to do injectors on the 6.0 but the 6.4 is another story or it could be just the dealership up charging.

Any of the trucks if chipped will not last long. Add in poor maintenance and you have a recipe for huge repair bills. As for working on a Power-Stoke or Dura-Max the Cummins is by far cheaper and easier to work on then the other two.

>Tory, try taking off those anti Ram glasses and maybe you might see them. But then you wouldn't have anything to talk about on RV.NET now would you. :W :B

Don

Just open the hood of all three and you will see what one is still easy to work on. The other two I would only own under warranty!

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
No need to pull the cab to do injectors on the 6.0 but the 6.4 is another story or it could be just the dealership up charging.

Any of the trucks if chipped will not last long. Add in poor maintenance and you have a recipe for huge repair bills. As for working on a Power-Stoke or Dura-Max the Cummins is by far cheaper and easier to work on then the other two.

>Tory, try taking off those anti Ram glasses and maybe you might see them. But then you wouldn't have anything to talk about on RV.NET now would you. :W :B

Don

Just open the hood of all three and you will see what one is still easy to work on. The other two I would only own under warranty!

No need to pull the cab to do injectors on the 6.0 but the 6.4 is another story or it could be just the dealership up charging.

Any of the trucks if chipped will not last long. Add in poor maintenance and you have a recipe for huge repair bills. As for working on a Power-Stoke or Dura-Max the Cummins is by far cheaper and easier to work on then the other two.

>Tory, try taking off those anti Ram glasses and maybe you might see them. But then you wouldn't have anything to talk about on RV.NET now would you. :W :B

Don