Horsepower is horsepower?
If that theory is true (in real circumstances), then a 385hp 6.7L Cummins diesel shouldn't spank a 381hp Toyota Tundra when both are tested 0-60 towing a 5740# boat. But it did. Must be the adva...
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Turtle n Peeps wrote:wilber1 wrote:Turtle n Peeps wrote:transamz9 wrote:wilber1 wrote:Most tt pull harder than the fifth wheels. Mine did and it was 6500# GVW and my 5er is 14,000.;)
Everyone to their own but after towing a 12'6" high 10k GVW fiver for ten years with a 5.9 Cummins with 235 HP 460 lb ft in front of a 4 spd auto, I think a much lower 6k TT behind 220 HP 420 lbft and a 8 spd auto would do just fine.
My 200hp 6.5 is down to less than 30 MPH in the big hills out west and in Co. It's more like 225hp because the pump and turbo is turned up a bit and it has big exhaust.
That is what the new Dodge is going to be like with a 7K TT on the tail. For most nowdays, this is unexceptable.
How many gears does your 6.5 have? My 235 HP Cummins was in 1:1 when it hit 3rd gear, The new Dodge doesn't get there until it is in 6th. It will do a lot better in the hills.
4 plus lockup.
Gears don't make HP. Sure if I had a 6 speed in my 6.5 it may be a touch faster but that's about it.
My tractor has 12 speeds forward and I can keep it just where I want it to RPM wise. Tons of torque, just no HP, just like my pickup. It's no speed demon because it does not have a lot of HP; the same problem that this new dodge is going to have.
Remember, this trucks direct competition is going to be two trucks: 1 with over 120 more HP and the other with 60 more HP. And lets not forget the Yoda with over 400HP on tap. :E This truck and engine will get killed in a towing contest.
Unless you can maintain peak HP rpm at full throttle, you aren't producing peak HP. If your gear is to high, you can't get it to peak HP. If it's too low, you can't use full throttle without over reving. If your 6.5 is a four speed, I doubt you ever see peak HP except for a second before you shift into another gear where you also can't maintain close to peak HP.
The more gears you have, the closer you can come to maintaining full throttle close to peak power. That's the reason for using more gears.
Who the heck buys a truck to have towing contests? This is a 1/2 ton for cripes sake, intended for people who want a daily driver that can tow a decent weight without emptying their wallet at the fuel pump. Why do you guys want to make it something else?
