Thanks hemi joel, we sat in a cascade 2018's recliners. They were cloth and they sat very well for us. I don't think there is a perfect camper. The cascade is the first camper that I have seen and spent some time in that I'm willing to trade my snowriver for. We visited a 1165 about a year and a half ago, it was really nice but the dinnet didn't fit my wife and I unlike the SR we were use to. I tow a small boat and I tow my sxs, the cascade allows for a much shorter hitch. I really like the side entry campers, hard decisions, hoping the build quality is really good. That to me is the most important aspect of the new camper. Thank you for giving us your thoughts on the cascade. Barry