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Mickeyfan0805's avatar
Sep 10, 2019

How do you really judge TV adequacy anymore?

I've spent a lot of time looking at the ever-changing capabilities of pick-ups, and a separate thread earlier today really go me thinking about the uselessness of truck categories. The 1/2, 3/4 and 1-ton badges simply don't mean what they once did. With this in mind,
I went to the 2019 Ford specs and found an F150 with 13k in conventional towing and 2,870 in payload. Meanwhile, I found an F350 with 12,300 in towing and 2,910 in payload.

Now, these are the rarities and the extremes, but it points out the variance in the traditional truck grades, and it makes me ask a question. Even the most conservative rules of thumb, when we first started in the camping world 10 years ago, suggested that one could tow up to 80% of towing capacity. Then, in the 1/2 ton market, we would always say that payload was the limiting factor. The thing is, it's not anymore!

In the F150 case above, the 80% rule would have someone towing a 10,400 pound trailer with an F150, and that would only use 1,200-1,500 pounds of their 2,870 payload - giving them plenty of leeway for passengers and gear.

So, my question is this...How do we judge what is sufficient anymore? How do we know what a truck is realistically capable of? I don't know many F150 owners that would suggest towing a 10k trailer, but one could do that well within the limits of the modern-day specs.

I've always been one to say, 'Know your numbers and live within them.' That is the rule I've followed myself. Now I wonder if that advice is really sufficient anymore.

53 Replies

  • Those 150/1500, 250/2500, and 350/3500 numbers on the side don’t tell much any more. There are so many configuration variations, and subsequent variations in ratings, of each that you have to look in depth the ratings for each and how they were obtained.
  • 4x4ord's avatar
    4x4ord
    Explorer III
    I think the manufacturers tow ratings make better sense now than they ever did. The thing people need to be aware of is that HD3/4 tons are identical to 1 tons other than they have less leafs in the rear springs which prevent them from being able to carry much of a trailer. Once the manufactures stop producing these useless 3/4 tons and put the 3/4 ton badging on the 1 ton SRW everything will make sense..... it will be if a half ton won't do it you gets a 3/4 (which will be sprung like a present day 1ton SRW) if the 3/4 ton doesn't cut it you get a 1 ton which means you get duals
  • The ole 1/2, 3/4 1 ton designations no longer apply.......haven't for YEARS

    What does apply is 'CLASS' Ratings
    GVWR Ranges define CLASS

    Class I-------up to 6000#
    Class II--------up to 10,000#
    Class III----------up to 14,000#


    GVWR minus UVW equals Payload

    For ME........I go by Axle/Tire Load Ratings to determine WHAT Can I Tow?