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How to stay warm

Just purchased a 2016 Forest River Rockwood 2304DS and almost froze last night. Temps are 27degree and furnace will not even get close to keeping us warm. Purchased a 1500watt Oil electric heater tod...
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jaycocreek wrote:
Marketing double speak.. AND a PACK OF LIES..


Really,Just what is your \"first hand\" experience with a modern infared box heater in an RV?

I have used just about every heater made in my RV including Catalytic/Kerosene/Ceramic/Infared/oil etc etc and still have quite a collection of them.The infared box heater does by far the best job of all of them except maybe the Catalytic, in keeping my 30ft trailer and 21ft Motorhome warm in Idaho's winter climate.

Just to show I use it in an RV,here is a picture of it in the RV.



And in the house which it does an excellent job at,much more than any other portable heater I have used..I currently have a milk house heater/a tower heater/ceramic and the good old regular electric heater with setting from 400 watts to 1500 watts.I just sold a oil heater.

The airflow from this heater far exceeds any other I have tried and probably why it heats large area's much better.



Perhaps YOU did not read my comments very well..

YOU quoted DIRECTLY from the manufacturer of YOUR \"infared\" heater that CLEARLY STATES it CAN HEAT 1500 square feet..

That IS a pack of lies.

To TRULY HEAT 1500 square feet it would take about TEN of those heaters.

1500W is 1500W and 5200 BTUs IS 5200 BTUS.

It IS well established in the heating world that you NEED 6W-12W PER SQUARE FOOT (depending on insulation and such), the manufacturer of your heater is claiming they can do it with only ONE WATT per square ft.

One watt per square ft is just not happening.

YOUR heater pretty much in order to stay within several guidelines set forth by dear old NEC that LIMITS the max amount that a PORTABLE HEATING DEVICE CAN DRAW.

That LIMIT IS 1500W.

In order for your device to get UL approval it MUST MEET that guideline..

That ABSOLUTE MAX BTU you will ever get out ANY portable electric heater IS 5200 BTU..

To get more it would have to be a OVER UNITY device (AKA PERPETUAL MACHINE)..

I think you are mistaking the quicker heat up as being more heat available or works better than your other heaters..

Some heaters are slow and some heat faster, yours IS A FORCED AIR heater, there IS A FAN INSIDE.

And YES, I have been around SEVERAL different manufacturers of those types of heaters..

YES, you do get heat but personally I find them NO BETTER than any OTHER heaters in the SAME WATTAGE category. They just heat faster than non forced air options.","body@stringLength":"2948","rawBody":"
jaycocreek wrote:
Marketing double speak.. AND a PACK OF LIES..


Really,Just what is your \"first hand\" experience with a modern infared box heater in an RV?

I have used just about every heater made in my RV including Catalytic/Kerosene/Ceramic/Infared/oil etc etc and still have quite a collection of them.The infared box heater does by far the best job of all of them except maybe the Catalytic, in keeping my 30ft trailer and 21ft Motorhome warm in Idaho's winter climate.

Just to show I use it in an RV,here is a picture of it in the RV.



And in the house which it does an excellent job at,much more than any other portable heater I have used..I currently have a milk house heater/a tower heater/ceramic and the good old regular electric heater with setting from 400 watts to 1500 watts.I just sold a oil heater.

The airflow from this heater far exceeds any other I have tried and probably why it heats large area's much better.



Perhaps YOU did not read my comments very well..

YOU quoted DIRECTLY from the manufacturer of YOUR \"infared\" heater that CLEARLY STATES it CAN HEAT 1500 square feet..

That IS a pack of lies.

To TRULY HEAT 1500 square feet it would take about TEN of those heaters.

1500W is 1500W and 5200 BTUs IS 5200 BTUS.

It IS well established in the heating world that you NEED 6W-12W PER SQUARE FOOT (depending on insulation and such), the manufacturer of your heater is claiming they can do it with only ONE WATT per square ft.

One watt per square ft is just not happening.

YOUR heater pretty much in order to stay within several guidelines set forth by dear old NEC that LIMITS the max amount that a PORTABLE HEATING DEVICE CAN DRAW.

That LIMIT IS 1500W.

In order for your device to get UL approval it MUST MEET that guideline..

That ABSOLUTE MAX BTU you will ever get out ANY portable electric heater IS 5200 BTU..

To get more it would have to be a OVER UNITY device (AKA PERPETUAL MACHINE)..

I think you are mistaking the quicker heat up as being more heat available or works better than your other heaters..

Some heaters are slow and some heat faster, yours IS A FORCED AIR heater, there IS A FAN INSIDE.

And YES, I have been around SEVERAL different manufacturers of those types of heaters..

YES, you do get heat but personally I find them NO BETTER than any OTHER heaters in the SAME WATTAGE category. They just heat faster than non forced air 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