HTT comfort Size question, and newbie hazing invitation

we do not have a couch and do not miss it. our kids are 5 and 2 years old. biggest pain is stepping over a black lab hahaha.

our trailblazer v8 swb rwd could not tow our hybrid comfortably. We were on 6% highway going downhill and could not reach 60mph. the tb was a sweet popup tower but not up specs required for the barn door effects of a full height tt. keep in mind our model is 9ft 6" high and 7ft wide. Our k2500 sub carries canoes, bikes, firewood, cooler, 2 kids, and a large lab. ?mother in laws nope. ?good luck with whatever you find.

Mobile day care? Hope your wife does not read this. LOL Anyway our family of six has got along well with HTT listed below. An unexpected thing happened as my boys got older. They preferred to stay in their own tent. Honestly did'nt see that one comming. Yours may be the same. Having more space than needed is always a good thing. Consider friends may want to come along as well. Happy trails

The Roo/Shamrock 183 compromises interior seating (there is no sofa) for the third bed. Not sure of your weather/insect conditions but here on the North Coast we end up eating and sitting inside more often than we'd like and the sofa (which turns into an extremely uncomfortable bed) is a large plus.

Adding a third bed merely for occasional use doesn't fit my model as the dinette (and sofa) convert to sleeping areas.

Pricing on the West Coast is obscene compared to the North Coast. RVWholesalers will deliver the trailer but it's coming to California on it's own wheels. Picking it up personally ensures there's a driver who cares about what's being towed. Figure on 9 mpg on the way back no matter what you're towing with (assuming it's a gasoline engine). 400 gallons of gasoline at Midwest prices runs about $1400. You can do it in a long week's vacation driving 10 hour days.

Note the trip will be weather dependent unless you go the southern route. Also note the 2015-titled models will be on the dealer's lots in Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois in May (no later than June).

-- Chuck

good luck to you. we made the mistake of getting prices from Midwest dealers and were disappointed to find how greedy dealers on the West Coast are in their prices.
got so frustrated with local dealers we ended up driving to Chicago and back to get our Roo. still saved over $4000 after trip costs and made a camping trip out of the return.

I am defiantly going to look before buying. I am going to go in a few weeks to look at all the forest river, Jayco, and Dutchmen I can find within driving distance. It just nice to hear from people who have been actually using them what they thing would be too small or big.

Have you seen the trailer? Make sure you do as it's pretty small with a little one. We've got a 20'er which means the living quarters are 16', works fine for the 2 of us as long as we don't get 3 or 4 days of rain, we usually head home if we do. Being in Ca. this may not be an issue. If you had a bigger TV I'd suggest something with a bump out to give wee one some room but that's not an option.

So yes the 183 or the 19 as Dan suggests will work for you, you'll have a more open feel with the 183 as well as extra room when Mom doesn't travel with you. The 19 gives you the couch, which is a big plus, but a more cramped feel. Think you'd be best off actually visiting the 2 to decide, if possible.

The truck should do "okay" with either, at 290 HP you should be alright. The hitch weight should work out too, roughly 500 lbs loaded up. I ran into rear end sag issues on my old Ranger, had to add Air-Lifts to it, but you won't know till you hook it up.

Go for it but do keep in mind it's a slippery slope your getting on.

first, let me say that hybrids are perfect for California and should be way more popular.
second, i think you should pass on the 3-bed and just get the two bed hybrid and get the 19.
that way, if your son doesn't want to sleep with G-ma, he can sleep on the sofa or dinette.

if G-ma was always going to go or you always had more people or you plan on expanding the family, then i'd say ok to the 3-bed hybrid.

we've had our Roo 23SS for 7 years now and still love it.