spoon059 wrote:
TomG2 wrote:
spoon059 wrote:
...snip....Define inadequate. All those rigs stopped, didn't they? You weren't able to provide me with pages and pages of stories about fatal car crashes because those cars weren't able to stop, were you?
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If you don't think that modern tow vehicles stop better than the oldies then you would not believe anything else anyone tells you. I suppose disc brakes are not as good as drum brakes for resisting brake fade? I could go on and on but sometimes it is easier to give up than educate.
Please, find the text where I wrote that a car in the 60's was SAFER than a new vehicle. Find that text and post it for everyone to see.
Nowhere did I say it was SAFER. I simply commented that the hundreds or thousands of people that towed heavy trailers with vehicles we would call "inadequate" today got to their end location safely.
You don't seem to be reading my posts, rather you just assume the worst and weakest argument and decide to pounce on that. I can only surmise that you have no valid argument to my points, and rather than admit you don't have a valid argument you chose to change the talking point.
Maybe you DO have an argument. Maybe those vehicles were grossly unsafe and 10% or more of them resulted in collisions that injured or killed people. If you have proof to that, please provide it.
Until then, I stick with my argument. Vehicle manufacturers are very conservative with their numbers because of warranty costs... NOT because they are UNSAFE. What you wrote here seems to add validity to my argument. Those cars in the 60's towed heavy and likely without WDH and proper vehicle setup. They made it safely. Modern trucks are far and away safer, have more power, better steering, better braking systems, better sway/traction control, larger surface area for braking, larger tire contact patches, air bags, etc etc. Modern vehicles are safer. Modern vehicles can easily handle their rated capacities... likely MORE.
Spoon, not to nit pick, but twice in this post you said that in the days of old they made it to their destination safely. This implies that they were safe from point A to point B. Maybe it's just semantics, but you should have chosen a different word to make your point -- like "alive".
Bruce