humbled on the hill

45Ricochet wrote:
That's pretty tame Mike, show the ones north of you in BC :B
OBTW a grade is something longer than a city block IMO.



Not my photo but I've been there. Never did visit the Teton Pass though :R

It is 10 percent in that picture. The photo just does not show it well. Look out pass is LONG.

I know, It is a big one 7 to 10 percent for the whole long windy thing.

I dislike Vantage more.

ls1mike wrote:
Ah reminds me of Lookout Pass and the Continental divide on I-90
Pulling my old 8000lbs loaded 5er with an 89 GMC 1 ton. Good times.

Very long grades foot to the floor 4000 RPM 40 to 45 mph.
Lookout pass Idaho side

Hottest the old TH400 ever got. Had a huge cooler on it.

Still went around a few motor homes.
My newer small block is so much better.

That picture doesn't do lookout justice!

So much discussion on 1 pass of 1 diesel truck by an F150. Popcorn time.




2 bags worth.

That's pretty tame Mike, show the ones north of you in BC :B
OBTW a grade is something longer than a city block IMO.



Not my photo but I've been there. Never did visit the Teton Pass though :R

Ah reminds me of Lookout Pass and the Continental divide on I-90
Pulling my old 8000lbs loaded 5er with an 89 GMC 1 ton. Good times.

Very long grades foot to the floor 4000 RPM 40 to 45 mph.
Lookout pass Idaho side

Hottest the old TH400 ever got. Had a huge cooler on it.

Still went around a few motor homes.
My newer small block is so much better.

Vulcaneer wrote:

BurbMan wrote:

On the other hand, if it happened just like you said, why didn't you just stay in the right lane and go up the hill a little slower and a little more comfortably?

Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, having never driven a Ford V-10...going up a hill in the burb never produces that kind of noise and/or stress.

Pulling a 13,000 pound trailer up an 11% grade, and if you let the V10 off the torque curve in third gear. You are going down to second or even first gear. And maybe down to 25 or 30 MPH. And if you start by building up momentum, so that you can keep your speed up to legal limits, and you are in the left lane passing a line of several slower moving heavy haulers in the right line. So if your are in the left lane and losing speed rapidly, you become a very dangerous road block to those others that are trying to keep their speed up in the left hand lane behind you.

It really has nothing to do with a gasser, A V-10, a Diesel. It's more about experience. And knowing your limits. And being considerate of others on the road. A big difference between towing a 13,000 pound high profile 5'r or an 8,000 pound low profile TT. So you might not be aware.

Vulcaneer, anyone who hasn't driven the 17 from Phoenix to Flagstaff isn't going to get it. I grew up in Ohio, lived in New Jersey & worked in NYC for 9 years, and have driven extensively all over the country, including the mountains of North Carolina, Tennessee, Vermont, Pennsylvania, etc.

There are some big hills, then there's AZ & CA...they are an entirely different animal, and we get to climb them in 110F plus to boot.

BurbMan wrote:

On the other hand, if it happened just like you said, why didn't you just stay in the right lane and go up the hill a little slower and a little more comfortably?

Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, having never driven a Ford V-10...going up a hill in the burb never produces that kind of noise and/or stress.

Pulling a 13,000 pound trailer up an 11% grade, and if you let the V10 off the torque curve in third gear. You are going down to second or even first gear. And maybe down to 25 or 30 MPH. And if you start by building up momentum, so that you can keep your speed up to legal limits, and you are in the left lane passing a line of several slower moving heavy haulers in the right line. So if your are in the left lane and losing speed rapidly, you become a very dangerous road block to those others that are trying to keep their speed up in the left hand lane behind you.

It really has nothing to do with a gasser, A V-10, a Diesel. It's more about experience. And knowing your limits. And being considerate of others on the road. A big difference between towing a 13,000 pound high profile 5'r or an 8,000 pound low profile TT. So you might not be aware.

Years ago I spoke with another RVer that had a '50 Ford woody station wagon. He was pulling an older ('60's) large folding trailer and told me how he enjoyed 'surprising' other vehicles in the Rockies while towing.

The old wagon had a modified 472 cube Cadillac V8. Beautiful car.

gmcsmoke wrote:

I can see it now, a bunch of scruffy old guys getting off a tour bus at the dealership

They call it the " airport shuttle" at Dave Smith motors, the worlds largest Dodge dealer. He also sells GM's.
Sincerely
Scruffy Old Guy