If a pickup truck has been "Lifted" and tricked out...

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Lots of stereotypes, accusations, presumptions, lack of understanding, and other nonsense In this thread. Is the OP referring to a truck with a 2" lift or a 12" lift? What does the OP want to tow? What's wrong with fancy exhaust and other upgrades? Young kids play toy??? Paaaa-lease!

The worst RVer on the highway is the typical lifted 4WD yanking a toyhauler. The same arrogance. And the same lack of understanding anything resembling common sense in separation distances and vehicle dynamics.

You can use that statement for any individual hauling or towing with any vehicle, be it stock or modified to OTR vehicles. Driving too fast for conditions, improper set up for towing i.e. hitches, WD systems... too small a TV, poor driving habits.... soccer moms/dads in their 4WD SUVs thinking they're invincible when it comes to snow and ice (lots of them on their roofs along highway ditches) and yes even some idiots with lifted trucks in same ditches up side down or on their sides... its all in your ability to drive safely. Have pulled my share of "2 wheel drive" Rver's stuck on grass or muddy roads.

When I am truck shopping, any modifications or evidence of a tuner and I walk away.

Suspension lifts always put additional stress on components. Plus, if they are done incorrectly, they can put a lot of additional stress. Tuners, etc. do the same thing to engines.

Sure, there are 'some' who did it right, used top end parts, etc. But I don't want to spend the time to figure it out. Buying a used vehicle is a******shoot already - I don't want to add additional points of possible failure!

Plus, I don't want a lifted truck. Usually people are trying to sell their modifications as added value, and thus asking for a higher price, and to me, it is actually a negative because I don't want it on there. So, it is usually worthless to even try to negotiate.

Add to Slowmover's very good comments...all things designed/engineered/etc are
NOT for the good days when a half ton can tow the Shuttle...they are designed for
the day Mr Murphy crosses your path

Either you have the properly sized and optioned TV spot there or not.

No time to go back to the store for proper sized or re-adjust.

I refer to that as it's ability to 'manhandle' the setup in adverse
conditions...

Plus...it can happen to anyone, any time, any place....not just to 'the other guy'

Any lift worsens towing as it raises COG. I find it pretty funny that anyone would think their changes somehow have no effect. It has compromised the ability of the truck to do work. Period. Not in braking and not in handlingis it equal. Never in resisting the trailer forces against the TV.

And I've used these in the oilfield. 2WD works out better down here. Or the driver needs to find another kind of hauling.

The worst RVer on the highway is the typical lifted 4WD yanking a toyhauler. The same arrogance. And the same lack of understanding anything resembling common sense in separation distances and vehicle dynamics.

Longevity and reliability have to do with lessening the load on the TV where weight is a given. Fuel burn is the usual marker.

The OP should check engine hours against vehicle miles. And ask a dealer to interrogate the computer as I'm told a more accurate picture of fuel consumption, percent idle hours, etc, can be obtained.

For me I'd avoid anything with a lift, off-road tires ( not traction tires), a tuner and evidence of a gooseneck hitch. 2WD makes a better choice in this as well. If a Dodge Cummins, choose the manual transmission models as it makes the best combination ever available in any light duty truck. Stay away from the second hand now third hand abused trucks.

Hauled my boat,Travel trailer and my 5ver with this.
It was a better ride than my dually :(

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wi2l02qufz54dxh/pic20130219151442.jpg?dl=0

Hey Grit Dog,

If you would read my next post you will see that do in fact have a level kit on it. The Picture you see is with the truck lifted 2.5" in the front and 3" in the rear sitting on 22 pounds of air in the bags. Now it's not a monster lift but it is "lifted";)

I'll have to dig around, believe I have some pictures with the ole TT hitched up.

Agree with other poster, all depends on what lift you used. And I too would put it up against any stock truck. Would love to see stock truck pull the goose neck loaded with equipment plow through a couple of feet of snow on an oilfield lease road, or attempt same road during spring break up.

Although, I would never buy a used truck with a lift, as you don't know what your getting as far as what lift, where it was used, how it was used... not always a "kid" with tons of daddy's money. You can go to any dealer and get a new truck with dealer installed lift kits, but those are mostly the cheaper kits.

Really sad part of this whole topic is most if not all of the nay sayers have never towed with a lifted truck. Head on down to the Baja or AZ or Tx... along the beaches , sand dunes or deserts you'll see tons of lifted trucks pulling huge toy haulers. Go ask the owners for their experiences.

transamz9 wrote:
OP,

Here's my lifted tricked out truck and I am far from some young kid. I would put it up against any 2500/3500 SRW truck on this forum towing, ride quality, or ready to tow condition. You need to do your homework though on the upgrades that have been done to it and why.

If that's i
Your idea of lifted then you're a little out there. Not even a leveling kit. Throwing 285s in place of the stock pizza cutters does not equate to being lifted. Hahaha

To groundhoggy, don't take this the wrong way, but after reading a couple of these threads, you are not the lifted, tuned diesel type. Trust me that you will be happier with a bone stock pavement pounder. Period. Just trying to save you some $ and issues down the road.

mayo30 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:
OP,

Here's my lifted tricked out truck and I am far from some young kid. I would put it up against any 2500/3500 SRW truck on this forum towing, ride quality, or ready to tow condition. You need to do your homework though on the upgrades that have been done to it and why.

What lift kit did you use and how high.Height and wheels and tires are standard looking.What tricks did you do,black lights?

I just went with a 2.5" level kit up front and my air ride suspension in the rear. The tires are a little over an inch taller than factory and almost an inch wider. Yes the wheels are factory (I like them).

The first week I got it I blacked the lights out, added stainless rocker trim, bed rail stainless,tubular step bars, and an exhaust tip. Since then I have added billet grill inserts, bull bar, level kit, 4-link air ride with on board air, replaced step bars with oval bars, MBRP turbo back exhaust, K&N drop in, Bully Dog GT tuner, 7 inch touch screen CD/DVD/MP3/Bluetooth/GPS/Back Up Camera,upgraded speakers with sub (all amplified), some interior LED accent lighting and some back up lighting so my DW can see the boat trailer when backing down the ramp.