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noteven wrote:
This isn't a power the house question - "but"
I just did some work with a 2006 Dodge diesel pickup and goose neck flatbed. Due to the off road and back road nature of the work "miles" are not the same as highway.
A machine was moved to the location and back after the work. 2 loads.
10 loads of 8 tons +/- each of bales were moved in 2 mornings. GCW would be about 30,500lbs each trip. Don't panic this truck has done this kind of work for years.
In about 12 hours of hauling totalling 280 miles the truck used 60 USgals of diesel.
Let's say a BE "1 ton" 4x4 existed to compare, one with 300 ish hp like the Dodge.
Could it do this work in two 6 hour days, with an overnight charge - 12 trips at 30,500lbs.
I'm not sure how to convert 5 gals per hour of diesel fuel used into kwhr of BEV range...
No idea. But there are people on this board much smarter than me that I know can figure it out. I’m just an EV driver.
Currently I don’t know any company that builds EV’s even considering building anything like a pickup that could do that. There are at least 5 companies with EV trucks in either pre-production or concept status but they are all half tons. My guess is it will be a few years before we see anyone working on something like a diesel dually. My wife has a reservation for a cybertruck but the towing capacity is no where near even half that. I think it’s 12500 pounds but not sure. Your truck is a brute. That’s a whack load of weight.
Jmho.
Not an expert.- notevenExplorer IIIThis isn't a power the house question - "but"
I just did some work with a 2006 Dodge diesel pickup and goose neck flatbed. Due to the off road and back road nature of the work "miles" are not the same as highway.
A machine was moved to the location and back after the work. 2 loads.
10 loads of 8 tons +/- each of bales were moved in 2 mornings. GCW would be about 30,500lbs each trip. Don't panic this truck has done this kind of work for years.
In about 12 hours of hauling totalling 280 miles the truck used 60 USgals of diesel.
Let's say a BE "1 ton" 4x4 existed to compare, one with 300 ish hp like the Dodge.
Could it do this work in two 6 hour days, with an overnight charge - 12 trips at 30,500lbs.
I'm not sure how to convert 5 gals per hour of diesel fuel used into kwhr of BEV range... pianotuna wrote:
Here is the battery tech that GM hopes to use.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/the-smarter-grid/the-return-of-the-lithiummetal-battery
YS, If your employer allows free charging at work....your plan might be a "GO".
That said, in Regina, there are 37 level 2 chargers that are totally free.
I'm curious--do folks with EV's plug in each and every day? (I would be doing so because my access would be level 1.)
My consumption is about 110 kwh per month. The cost of the power is about $14. My bill is a little less than $45 per month. Talk about being penalized for conservation! Effectively, I'm paying $0.45 per kwh.
If we are parked outside in winter we plug in everyday just so the pre heat doesn’t draw from the battery. Otherwise we tend to plug in once or twice a week or when the battery falls below 50 percent. We tend to only charge to about 80 or 90 percent. 100 percent before toad trips...which were seldom during Covid but getting more common now. Woohoo.- Yosemite_Sam1Explorer
pianotuna wrote:
Here is the battery tech that GM hopes to use.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/the-smarter-grid/the-return-of-the-lithiummetal-battery
YS, If your employer allows free charging at work....your plan might be a "GO".
That said, in Regina, there are 37 level 2 chargers that are totally free.
I'm curious--do folks with EV's plug in each and every day? (I would be doing so because my access would be level 1.)
My consumption is about 110 kwh per month. The cost of the power is about $14. My bill is a little less than $45 per month. Talk about being penalized for conservation! Effectively, I'm paying $0.45 per kwh.
Wow, you are a bigger cheapskate than me.:W I pay double that just for the municipality to haul my poop, :E
I want my electricity free and I'll feel like a true environmentalist to take advantage of their freely-installed solar panels, but they say I need an electric billl of $170 a month to qualify.
Can't understand their value proposition as the offer gives those who avails a $70 monthly fixed payment.
Yeah, battery and solar panel technologies are the most interesting development in this latent age.
Imagine million-mile battery and those seeming endless re-charging life cycles. - pianotunaNomad IIIHere is the battery tech that GM hopes to use.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/the-smarter-grid/the-return-of-the-lithiummetal-battery
YS, If your employer allows free charging at work....your plan might be a "GO".
That said, in Regina, there are 37 level 2 chargers that are totally free.
I'm curious--do folks with EV's plug in each and every day? (I would be doing so because my access would be level 1.)
My consumption is about 110 kwh per month. The cost of the power is about $14. My bill is a little less than $45 per month. Talk about being penalized for conservation! Effectively, I'm paying $0.45 per kwh. Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
Reisender wrote:
Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
pianotuna wrote:
Yosemite Sam1,
When BEV's become more popular they may well be used for grid smoothing, just as a "power wall" can be used.
My quite modest solar farm on my class C is often used to suppliment power when I "dial down" the shore power input amperage.
@pianotuna @reisender
Half joke, I wonder if my Cybertruck can partly power my home, I have a modern energy-saver home, and save on utility billings (bigger savings if I'm in the $17,000 a month electricity bill Texas, lol).
Imagine coming home with the Cybertruck fully charged with free electricity from Tesla's recharging networks? I'm not that cheapskate, but I can sure try?:R
Unfortunately electricity is not free from a Supercharger unless you were on of the early model S or Model X purchasers. They gave us something like 6000 km free when we bought though. That was right in the middle of Covid last year and unfortunately the 6 month expiry ran out before we used it all. Probably lost 20 or 30 bucks., Oh well. :)
Hey, that could get me a seafood buffet and worth the cheap skating!:W
:)- Yosemite_Sam1Explorer
Reisender wrote:
Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
pianotuna wrote:
Yosemite Sam1,
When BEV's become more popular they may well be used for grid smoothing, just as a "power wall" can be used.
My quite modest solar farm on my class C is often used to suppliment power when I "dial down" the shore power input amperage.
@pianotuna @reisender
Half joke, I wonder if my Cybertruck can partly power my home, I have a modern energy-saver home, and save on utility billings (bigger savings if I'm in the $17,000 a month electricity bill Texas, lol).
Imagine coming home with the Cybertruck fully charged with free electricity from Tesla's recharging networks? I'm not that cheapskate, but I can sure try?:R
Unfortunately electricity is not free from a Supercharger unless you were on of the early model S or Model X purchasers. They gave us something like 6000 km free when we bought though. That was right in the middle of Covid last year and unfortunately the 6 month expiry ran out before we used it all. Probably lost 20 or 30 bucks., Oh well. :)
Hey, that could get me a seafood buffet and worth the cheap skating!:W Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
pianotuna wrote:
Yosemite Sam1,
When BEV's become more popular they may well be used for grid smoothing, just as a "power wall" can be used.
My quite modest solar farm on my class C is often used to suppliment power when I "dial down" the shore power input amperage.
@pianotuna @reisender
Half joke, I wonder if my Cybertruck can partly power my home, I have a modern energy-saver home, and save on utility billings (bigger savings if I'm in the $17,000 a month electricity bill Texas, lol).
Imagine coming home with the Cybertruck fully charged with free electricity from Tesla's recharging networks? I'm not that cheapskate, but I can sure try?:R
Unfortunately electricity is not free from a Supercharger unless you were on of the early model S or Model X purchasers. They gave us something like 6000 km free when we bought though. That was right in the middle of Covid last year and unfortunately the 6 month expiry ran out before we used it all. Probably lost 20 or 30 bucks., Oh well. :)- Yosemite_Sam1Explorer
pianotuna wrote:
Yosemite Sam1,
When BEV's become more popular they may well be used for grid smoothing, just as a "power wall" can be used.
My quite modest solar farm on my class C is often used to suppliment power when I "dial down" the shore power input amperage.
@pianotuna @reisender
Half joke, I wonder if my Cybertruck can partly power my home, I have a modern energy-saver home, and save on utility billings (bigger savings if I'm in the $17,000 a month electricity bill Texas, lol).
Imagine coming home with the Cybertruck fully charged with free electricity from Tesla's recharging networks? I'm not that cheapskate, but I can sure try?:R - Grit_dogNavigator III
Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
pianotuna wrote:
Yosemite Sam1,
I did consider a short range electric car. I was going to add a rack on the back and carry my Kipor 2800 watt generator on it. A home made hybrid, if you will.
I did add a manual transfer switch to my home. It had the ability to power six circuits. I had a few occasions to use it, and I was pleasantly surprized at how many items I could run, powered by the Kipor.
Will your generator charge your electric car too when in outside locations and when no power sources are available to plug it in?
If it is, it will be way cool.:C
I’m assuming his thought was not to simply make a rack to just “carry” it.....:S
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