Improve my suspension

rhagfo wrote:

Gnsolman wrote:
Thanks Jimln My Durmax is rated for 22000 lbs Thats for a combined weight of the truck and the trailer Last I put it on the scale it came in @ 22500lbs and I had fluids in the tanks We also emptied some items So long story short we are well within the GVW of the vehicle Weights I believe the fifth wheel pin weight for the trailer is at about 1750lbs What started my whole search was we just moved are fifth wheel on a 1100 mile trip We came home without it We felt great when we got out of the vehicle running without the fifth wheel. With the fifth wheel stiff and sore for the first few steps getting out for fuel We have traveled from Florida Keys to Alaska so lets just say I've hauled the fifth wheel over 50000 mile on various trips
I'm liking the airbag suggestion Thanks again Jimln

So I will be that last one to tell you you are over some ratings, something about the Pot and Kettle.

That said you need to understand the numbers you are posting.
The 22,000# number is the GVCWR (Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating), this is the total weight of the TV and 5er. I think you understand that.

Next number is the GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) this is what the TV is rated to carry on its wheels, this is partly a artificial number for most 2500/250 as typically they share the same running gear as a 3500/350 SRW. This appears to be 9,200# for your TV, and you are at least 800# over that number.

Next is GAWR, separate for front and rear. The rear rating is based on springs and tires the axles itself is good for about 9,000# to 10,000#.

Your rear GAWR is likely 6,000# to 6,200# you will be close to exceeding this also.

The single most important rating is the Tire and wheel rating!! Never exceed these!

The tire rating is on the sidewall of the tire, with the air pressure needed to have that rating.

Now given this information GO TO THE SCALES and get the rig weighed ready to camp.

Weight it twice first with 5er attached and get weights for TV Front and Rear axles, and the weight on the 5er's axles.

Then drop the 5er and weight the TV again Front and rear axles.

Then post with the TV GAWR's both front and rear. Then last but not least the Max tire capacity from the tires side wall and required pressure.

Then we could make sure you are not putting yourself, or others in danger by overloading tires/wheels.

Might also beable make it more enjoyable to tow, we might also tell you you need a bigger Truck. :B

This is not condoning what you are doing just helping you to be as safe as possible.

So you're telling me that this 08' 2500 has 9-10K RAWR?? I've got the one ton dually in my sig., and my RAWR is only 9750#, with a GVWR of 14K,,,I should have purchased an 08' Chevy 2500... It's got as good as specs, if not better on its RAWR, then my 13' 3500 dually.... Heck, I had an 07.5' Chevy dually D/A that didn't rate that high with RAWR...