Is Ford going to be the SUV leader?

Right on par with the 6.2 in the Denali and Escalade - 420/460 (which has also proven to be historically superior in MPG).

Ford's F150 has pushed the envelope for advancements in trucks. It is about time they gave some love to the full size SUV market. Competition is good.

Kinda looks Suburbanish,

Looks nice. Agreed that they need a max tow version. But i like it. Not a fan of the eb engines, but that's just my preference. Can't argue with the power they make

Lessmore wrote:
Kinda looks Suburbanish,

X2. But there's only so much they can do with a box on wheels. :)

Powertrian has not been the limit for RV towing in 10 years. Will the receiver still have under 1000 pound TW limit? Will any 4WD/AWD model have more than 1500 pounds of payload?

Looks like a bulked up Explorer. I agree they should add a HD payload pkg and a max tow version. that would get a lot of people out of their old Excursions and into new Fords!

dodge guy wrote:
Looks like a bulked up Explorer. I agree they should add a HD payload pkg and a max tow version. that would get a lot of people out of their old Excursions and into new Fords!

Just bought a second Excursion V-10 model so with maintenance they should last my life. Would not buy a new 70k SUV would rather spend my money on toys. While the X's power might not be as much the heavy-duty suspension can't be beat for towing. Same thing can be said about the 2500 series burbs with the 8.1

If I wanted a new SUV I would buy a conversation of the new 6.7 Diesel truck into a new Excursion, way more capable.

colliehauler wrote:

dodge guy wrote:
Looks like a bulked up Explorer. I agree they should add a HD payload pkg and a max tow version. that would get a lot of people out of their old Excursions and into new Fords!

Just bought a second Excursion V-10 model so with maintenance they should last my life. Would not buy a new 70k SUV would rather spend my money on toys. While the X's power might not be as much the heavy-duty suspension can't be beat for towing. Same thing can be said about the 2500 series burbs with the 8.1

If I wanted a new SUV I would buy a conversation of the new 6.7 Diesel truck into a new Excursion, way more capable.

I agree completely. Which is why I still have my X. Can't afford $70k for a new one. And a '16 Excursion conversion at near $100k is out of my range!

I was a little worried that Ford had abandoned the field to Tahoe/Yukon. This is good news. Competition will improve the entire market.

Yellow sticker makes it good for nothing more than a couple sacks of groceries or a bag of soccer balls though.......(see 2500 wimp thread below, lol)