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Nov 02, 2018

Just bought a Wolf Creek 840 -- Set Up Questions

I just bought a Wolf Creek 840, and still need to pick it up at the dealer that is 300 miles away. Any advise on truck set up would be appreciated. It will be going on my 2019 Ford F-350 crew cab short bed 6.7 diesel. Payload sticker on the door says 3522 lbs payload capacity.

I plan on using Torque lift frame mounted tie downs with SpringLoad XL Turnbuckles. Are Fast Gun turnbuckles worth almost double the price? I'll be towing a 5500 lb trailer with 550 lbs of tongue weight. Is my standard 15,000 lb rated receiver hitch and a 18" hitch extension adequate, or do I need a Superhitch and Truss Extender for an extra $1900 to $2900? Are air bags recommended ($1800 w/ compressor)? What about the Stableload bumpstops that mount on the overload leafs? Or should I just see how it does before beefing up suspension, which is what I plan on doing. And finally, what size/brand generator to run the 11K air conditioner? Thanks.
  • Congratulations for the new camper!
    The Fastguns are very convenient . You don't "need" them, but if you have used them once, you probably "want" them.
    I would test drive the setup before adding any modifications. Orherwise, it will be difficult to pinpoint any handling issues and decide what is the most effective way to take care of them.
    Whether the trailer fits behind your truck without some sort of hitch extension, I don't know. Surely someone who actually pulls a trailer will chime in. The same goes for the generator question.
    Do yourself a favor and weigh your rig when you are done. Get the individual axle weights. You will then know how close to the axle ratings of the truck you really are.
  • You want to put this camper with an 8'6" floor length on a 6 foot truck bed? Yes you will need some sort of hitch extension. Be very cautious though, most of them have very limited load ratings. Add the fact the extension can place a lot of strain on the factory hitch platform I think your really going to be asking for problems.
  • donn0128 wrote:
    You want to put this camper with an 8'6" floor length on a 6 foot truck bed? Yes you will need some sort of hitch extension. Be very cautious though, most of them have very limited load ratings. Add the fact the extension can place a lot of strain on the factory hitch platform I think your really going to be asking for problems.


    Donno, if you had the slightest clue what you were talking about, you wouldn’t even say these things......seriously.
    OP, go get the camper, bring it home before you start adding a bunch of stuff. A new 350 will haul an empty 840 without bottoming out.
  • I would definitely do the Fastguns, 8.5’ camper on a 6’ bed, yes you will need a Superhitch so you can run a Supertruss. Is you Wolf Creek going to have a Fox landing? If yes you will need a longer hitch extension than 18”. Will your new Ford have a rear swaybar? If no then you should consider one. I like Timbrens instead of air bags. I would do the Timbrens first then a swaybar if there is still too much sway.
    For your AC, install a MicroAir on the AC and then use a Honda 2000i/2200i generator.
  • donn0128 wrote:
    You want to put this camper with an 8'6" floor length on a 6 foot truck bed? Yes you will need some sort of hitch extension. Be very cautious though, most of them have very limited load ratings. Add the fact the extension can place a lot of strain on the factory hitch platform I think your really going to be asking for problems.


    Here is the trailer, its not that big of a trailer. Most trips would have one UTV on the trailer, but a few trips would have two UTVs on the trailer.

  • GeoBoy wrote:
    I would definitely do the Fastguns, 8.5’ camper on a 6’ bed, yes you will need a Superhitch so you can run a Supertruss. Is you Wolf Creek going to have a Fox landing? If yes you will need a longer hitch extension than 18”. Will your new Ford have a rear swaybar? If no then you should consider one. I like Timbrens instead of air bags. I would do the Timbrens first then a swaybar if there is still too much sway.
    For your AC, install a MicroAir on the AC and then use a Honda 2000i/2200i generator.


    I won't have the Fox Landing. My truck does have the camper prep package, which includes an electrical plug in the bed and a rear sway bar.

    I'll take a look at the Timbrens. Thanks.
  • I do the same thing with my WC850, I tow a UTV with me almost every trip. My trailer is all aluminum and much lighter so I have been using a 22" extension (cut a 36" extension down) without any issues for 6 summers now.

  • I have an 840 on my 2006 F350 SRW. It does really well with just the stableloads (upper and lower). With just the uppers engaged it still does okay but highway speeds with full water tank feels much more predictable with the lower ones engaged. The truck squats very little with them. There is not a lot of rocking when going over gutters and bumps. I don't see the need for spending the money on the fastguns. Perhaps if I had them I would feel different, but I needed the money somewhere else.

    I find the truck tows a trailer well with the 840, but I have a long bed. I use an 18 inch extension for my 8X5 utility trailer and carry a Polaris 870 Sportsman in it -- no problems there either. Limit how much stuff you carry and try to fill with water close to the camping destination and you will see it is a really good match for this size truck. Not sure how the short bed difference will affect you. My rig is actually more stable towing the trailer, but my weight is much less than you are contemplating.

    I think the 840 is an outstanding camper with great ergonomics for a non-slide unit. I love the views out of the rear of the camper with windows on three sides. You will want a Fox Landing as soon as you step on one. They are the bomb! The landing is high enough to be pretty much out of the way for most hitch set-ups. The overhang that will result with a short bed may negate this option.

    Let me know how the 11K A/C unit runs on a 2000i Honda. I only use mine on shore power. We camp above 6000 ft in the warm weather so no need for it unless using it at home or on road trips at campgrounds.

    The only problems we have had with ours are:
    1) The medicine cabinet shelf is pathetically weak and breaks no matter what I do to it.
    2) The upper front wall of the cabover seems to be delaminating slightly just below the roof curve. There is no sign of moisture penetration. I have noticed this on other Wolf Creeks as well.
    3) Some of the interior wall paper is slowly losing its grip along some ceiling edges. Not really a big deal but irritating.

    Everything else on this camper has been reliable and bulletproof. So far so good. Not interested in switching to a larger truck or camper until I retire, and maybe not even then. We love this thing. Here's some things about it that I have found to be true:

    1) It needs two batteries. Two group 27's will fit easily.
    2) Even in winter using heat the two propane bottles last easily over a week. On weekend jaunts I find it hard to tell if I have used any gas at all.
    3) The tube on the side for the septic hose is perfect and allows one to carry long items like hiking sticks or fishing poles in the bumper.
    4) The lounge bed will sleep short people easily but tall folks will have to do the fetal position. The cushions get tiresome by morning.
    5) Having space on either side of the bed to perch on is great for making up the bed, rather than having useless cabinets there.
    6) Don't leave the cabover escape window open if unattended. If a strong wind comes it can blow it wide open and the control lever can get pulled out which may puncture your screen.
    8) Blocking the bath skylight with Reflectix keeps the room much cooler/warmer.
  • Thanks Morsnow and Ranger Tim, that is good information.
  • I have a 2018 Wolf Creek 840 with the Arctic Fox landing and I tow a trailer with it as well. Haul it with a 2009 F350 V10 crew cab standard bed.

    I use an 18" hitch extension, and it's just cutting it. Your trailer may do better than mine since it has a 1' high support wall all around it, so in tight turns the trailer can actually bump into the rear camper jacks.

    I installed the Torklift frame mounted tie down, fastguns and Timbren SES. Went with the Timbrens since they only engage when you are loaded, hated constantly adjusting my air bags depending on load etc.