Justice Dept. sues FCA

Travlingman wrote:
U.S. Justice department sues Fiat over selling diesels(1500's and Cherokees) with software to defeat admission testing. Detroit Free Press

The EU is also pursuing FCA over Cheat devices on Fiat and Jeep veh8cles

With the ebb and flow of employees between the automakers it is only a matter of time once someone comes up with a scheme to bend the rules.
This lawsuit only addresses the 3.0, not the Cummins in the larger trucks.

I think everyone (especially the govt.) needs to realize that emissions have been maxed out! you cannot get them any lower. this is proven by the fact that at least 2 manuf have went to programming to make it look better. there are other manuf out there that I`m sure have done the same thing, they just haven't been caught yet. what needs to happen now is other countries need to step it up, some pollute 10X more than the U.S.

dodge guy wrote:
what needs to happen now is other countries need to step it up, some pollute 10X more than the U.S.

but we are the only one sucker enough to carry the burden alone.
bumpy

Bumpyroad wrote:

dodge guy wrote:
what needs to happen now is other countries need to step it up, some pollute 10X more than the U.S.

but we are the only one sucker enough to carry the burden alone.
bumpy

It's easy to forget how bad the air pollution used to be. Remember the smog in Los Angeles in the 60's? Very comparable to Beijing today. Personally I'd rather breathe the air here. It's not fair that our emission standards are tougher, but someone has to lead.

Cummins claims the air coming out of their engines is cleaner than the air coming in. Enough is enough.

Bumpyroad wrote:

dodge guy wrote:
what needs to happen now is other countries need to step it up, some pollute 10X more than the U.S.

but we are the only one sucker enough to carry the burden alone.
bumpy

Might want to do a little more research on that guys. US is second to China for emission pollutants in the world.

Google top 10 polluting countries.

Problem I see is that emission technology on diesels was ignored too long. Remember when gas engines had all that **** on them in the late 70's and 80's? Much more efficient now. Can diesels be cleaned up without choking them off, or costing $$ to clean, or replace filters etc every few years? I don't know. But diesels are being produced in much greater numbers now, with more coming on the market every year, so they better figure it out. I also prefer the cleaner air. You'd think the other countries would get tired of wearing masks outside all the time, and do something about it.

spud1957 wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

dodge guy wrote:
what needs to happen now is other countries need to step it up, some pollute 10X more than the U.S.

but we are the only one sucker enough to carry the burden alone.
bumpy

Might want to do a little more research on that guys. US is second to China for emission pollutants in the world.

Google top 10 polluting countries.

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Good grief..time for another troll alert in the tow vehicle forum