Justice Dept. sues FCA

spud1957 wrote:
Sooooo....back to the original topic. Does this mean FCA cannot sell the current vehicles? Haven't seen any TV commercials recently.

The ecodiesel has not been certified and cannot be sold yet. So unless you have one from before the EPA issue they are not available new.

Sooooo....back to the original topic. Does this mean FCA cannot sell the current vehicles? Haven't seen any TV commercials recently.

Ivylog wrote:
Google top 10 polluting countries. I did and you have to believe that CO2, which is 75% of greenhouse gasses, is a pollutant...main reason for global warming. Until last year there had not been any increase in global temps for 20 years but CO2 had steadily increased. How could that be??? If you research the graphs that Al Hore uses, CO2 lags temperatures...does not drive it.

dog gone trees taking up all that oxygen. Oh wait, do I have that backward.
bumpy

Google top 10 polluting countries. I did and you have to believe that CO2, which is 75% of greenhouse gasses, is a pollutant...main reason for global warming. Until last year there had not been any increase in global temps for 20 years but CO2 had steadily increased. How could that be??? If you research the graphs that Al Hore uses, CO2 lags temperatures...does not drive it.

I thought this was a better explanation of why they're getting sued.

Why The U.S. Government Is Suing Fiat Chrysler Over Cheating Diesels

ShinerBock wrote:

Mortimer Brewster wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

dodge guy wrote:
what needs to happen now is other countries need to step it up, some pollute 10X more than the U.S.

but we are the only one sucker enough to carry the burden alone.
bumpy

It's easy to forget how bad the air pollution used to be. Remember the smog in Los Angeles in the 60's? Very comparable to Beijing today. Personally I'd rather breathe the air here. It's not fair that our emission standards are tougher, but someone has to lead.

It has recently been proven that a majority of that smog comes from China via the jet stream and is blocked by the Rocky Mountains so it stagnates in the southern California region. While emissions from the US compounded the issue, it is not the major cause. I have no doubts that if the jet stream did not carry China's air pollution to the US, then the air pollution in Los Angeles would not have been nearly as bad back then.

Um no. China produces was more emissions now than it did in the 60s or 80s. Smog reduction in LA is a direct result of emissions being reduced here. I'll gladly pay a few hundred more dollars for a vehicle because of emissions. Or a few dollars a year more in my electric bill to have cleaner air.

Mortimer Brewster wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

dodge guy wrote:
what needs to happen now is other countries need to step it up, some pollute 10X more than the U.S.

but we are the only one sucker enough to carry the burden alone.
bumpy

It's easy to forget how bad the air pollution used to be. Remember the smog in Los Angeles in the 60's? Very comparable to Beijing today. Personally I'd rather breathe the air here. It's not fair that our emission standards are tougher, but someone has to lead.

It has recently been proven that a majority of that smog comes from China via the jet stream and is blocked by the Rocky Mountains so it stagnates in the southern California region. While emissions from the US compounded the issue, it is not the major cause. I have no doubts that if the jet stream did not carry China's air pollution to the US, then the air pollution in Los Angeles would not have been nearly as bad back then.

JIMNLIN wrote:
Good grief..time for another troll alert in the tow vehicle forum

If what they are doing is true, they are just as guilty as VW in trying to circumvent the rules.

Good grief..time for another troll alert in the tow vehicle forum

spud1957 wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

dodge guy wrote:
what needs to happen now is other countries need to step it up, some pollute 10X more than the U.S.

but we are the only one sucker enough to carry the burden alone.
bumpy

Might want to do a little more research on that guys. US is second to China for emission pollutants in the world.

Google top 10 polluting countries.

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