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jetski559
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Mar 30, 2022

Keystone Springdale - Very Low Drain Pipes

Hello All,

We just got a 2022 242RK Keystone Springdale travel trailer.
This has the Arctic Package.

I noticed the black and grey tank drain pipe outlet is VERY low to the ground. I haven't taken a tape measure, but it seems like it is like 6 inches or 8 inches... Way lower than our last trailer. It worries me to the point that a rock or something at the campsite is going to crack it if we run it over.

Maybe this is normal for the arctic package because the whole bottom is covered in insulating sheets so they had to stick the drain pipes out further?

See picture attached/below.
  • KD4UPL wrote:
    I would cut the end as close as possible and still be able to get a coupling on it. A 22.5 or something would bring the tip of the pipe up a bit.


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  • nickthehunter wrote:
    I had a Jayco a number of years back. Everyone that saw it commented on how low the black pipe drain was. I had the trailer for 12 years and it never was an issue.
    Just my experience with a similar issue, yours' may vary.


    Seems fairy typical and like you no issues.

    Being in front of the trailer axles, if you go over a 6-8" high rock, you already knew you ran over something big.

    Far more common is to drag the rear corners.

    Your average RV is not intended for serious off roading. If you want to take it into rough country, expect to do some upgrades.
  • I would cut the end as close as possible and still be able to get a coupling on it. A 22.5 or something would bring the tip of the pipe up a bit.
  • I had a Jayco a number of years back. Everyone that saw it commented on how low the black pipe drain was. I had the trailer for 12 years and it never was an issue.
    Just my experience with a similar issue, yours' may vary.
  • Hard to know exactly what to do without actually seeing it.........

    I assume that the galley grey pipe is the one shown in your picture.......If you can disconnect it from where it dumps into the bathroom 3" and then run it across the back or your TT to an increaser to 3" with a 3" dump valve, that might solve your problem. You could then raise the run from the bathroom to a reasonable height. You would have two discharge pipes to deal with which you could connect with a double wye before it gets to the park sewer connection.

    For the front, it looks like maybe a 3X11¼ degree slip x slip elbow might work for you, and might save messing with the bathroom grey pipe.

    Just some ideas. Hopefully you will figure it out.
  • Wade44 wrote:
    Another great example of the top notch engineering / design in the RV Industry. No advance planning. It looks like they had to do that for slope on the 1-1/2 drain, probably because you have a rear kitchen floorplan. Do you have a another gray drain behind the slide for the kitchen sink?

    It has nothing to do with the Artic package. With Keystone and most others it's nothing more than a piece of shoddily installed reflective barrier, a half assed run of flex duct from the furnace into the dead space above the under liner, a little extra fiberglass stuffed in some places at lightspeed by some Amish piece worker, maybe some heat pads on the tanks, and a shiny decal. It doesn't do much at all.


    There is a second grey drain for the kitchen towards the back of the trailer. Yes, it is a rear kitchen.
  • Another great example of the top notch engineering / design in the RV Industry. No advance planning. It looks like they had to do that for slope on the 1-1/2 drain, probably because you have a rear kitchen floorplan. Do you have a another gray drain behind the slide for the kitchen sink?

    It has nothing to do with the Artic package. With Keystone and most others it's nothing more than a piece of shoddily installed reflective barrier, a half assed run of flex duct from the furnace into the dead space above the under liner, a little extra fiberglass stuffed in some places at lightspeed by some Amish piece worker, maybe some heat pads on the tanks, and a shiny decal. It doesn't do much at all.
  • Can you cut and replumb with downward slope? My 2015 Winnie is also lower than I’d like.