killed new Jeep Wrangler by Flat-Towing It in 4-Low !

How would you like to be behind him when that thing started shelling out engine and drive train parts? I bet it made a hell of a racket as well.

Reminds me of the dude that was dragging a car with locked wheels with his motorhome setting the forest on fire behind him and refused to pull over. Wonder what the legal outcome of that was.

JRscooby wrote:

rjstractor wrote:


Someday down the road when battery technology permits an electric motorhome with decent range, I can see connecting an electric toad and having the two vehicles communicate via Bluetooth or wired link. On an uphill the toad could kick in to provide a little more power, and on downhills regen braking could eliminate the need for sketchy, overpriced toad braking systems.

Why does the MH need to be electric for this to work? With adaptive cruse control, could it not be programed to when MH got to say 3/4 throttle, the toad motor kicks in to hold it the length of towbar behind MH? This would take weight of toad off MH powertrain. Then, when driver hit WFO, the toad tries to get 6 inches closer, pushing MH.

I like the idea but I would think it would require some kind of special towbar. I don’t think traditional tow bars are meant to push. There would have to be some pretty funky software written by the manufacturer of the EV as well. Thinking it might be awhile. :).

Geo*Boy wrote:

Learjet wrote:

Roger10378 wrote:
I would think the insurance would deny any claim. This is pure and simple stupidity on the part of the owner.

That is why people have insurance.

That’s why insurance rates keep rising.

No Insurance keeps rising due to the complexity and technology on newer vehicle. Idiots have always been included in the insurance companies metrics.

rjstractor wrote:


Someday down the road when battery technology permits an electric motorhome with decent range, I can see connecting an electric toad and having the two vehicles communicate via Bluetooth or wired link. On an uphill the toad could kick in to provide a little more power, and on downhills regen braking could eliminate the need for sketchy, overpriced toad braking systems.

Why does the MH need to be electric for this to work? With adaptive cruse control, could it not be programed to when MH got to say 3/4 throttle, the toad motor kicks in to hold it the length of towbar behind MH? This would take weight of toad off MH powertrain. Then, when driver hit WFO, the toad tries to get 6 inches closer, pushing MH.

spoon059 wrote:

wnjj wrote:

Roger10378 wrote:
I would think the insurance would deny any claim. This is pure and simple stupidity on the part of the owner.

Or they simply made a mistake and forgot to put the transfer case in neutral (or whatever the flat tow method is).

Doesn't everyone do something kind of stupid now and then?

And they left it in gear. TWO major mistakes.

Thank you...harsh crowd here..not like someone has never dropped a fifth wheel trailer, turned to sharp with their short bed truck and fifth wheel or put gas in a Diesel...etc

Reisender wrote:
I have visions of something like this happening with someone pulling an electric vehicle and not having something selected right. Pumping regen into a full battery at 80 kw. I’m sure the results would be....worse.

Wonder if anyone was behind this poor fellow when it happened.

For the record, I have done stupid stuff like this. I kinda feel bad for the guy.

Haven't we all? I pulled an '88 Dodge Colt Vista for 120 miles with the parking brake on. Luckily it wasn't on too hard, but those brake drums were pretty warm!

Someday down the road when battery technology permits an electric motorhome with decent range, I can see connecting an electric toad and having the two vehicles communicate via Bluetooth or wired link. On an uphill the toad could kick in to provide a little more power, and on downhills regen braking could eliminate the need for sketchy, overpriced toad braking systems.

I have visions of something like this happening with someone pulling an electric vehicle and not having something selected right. Pumping regen into a full battery at 80 kw. I’m sure the results would be....worse.

Wonder if anyone was behind this poor fellow when it happened.

For the record, I have done stupid stuff like this. I kinda feel bad for the guy.

spoon059 wrote:

wnjj wrote:

Roger10378 wrote:
I would think the insurance would deny any claim. This is pure and simple stupidity on the part of the owner.

Or they simply made a mistake and forgot to put the transfer case in neutral (or whatever the flat tow method is).

Doesn't everyone do something kind of stupid now and then?

And they left it in gear. TWO major mistakes.

its actually supposed to be in gear with the T-case in N.

I can tell you that trying to get the T-case in N on a new Wrangker is a PITA! the lever is very hard to move. so when you yank it back to N it could very easily go into 4LO without realizing it. with thayt said they missed one crucial step, with the engine running put the vehicle in gear and make sure it doesn`t move, this gaurantees the T-case is in N.

wnjj wrote:

Roger10378 wrote:
I would think the insurance would deny any claim. This is pure and simple stupidity on the part of the owner.

Or they simply made a mistake and forgot to put the transfer case in neutral (or whatever the flat tow method is).

Doesn't everyone do something kind of stupid now and then?

And they left it in gear. TWO major mistakes.