We have the Lance 865 and are very happy with it. We did a 3 week trip this summer and never had a problem with holding capacities. As far as the shower goes, we either used campground showers or sponge bath, it is just not roomy enough for us to use. We like to use a mix of campgrounds and boondocking, so it isn't a problem to us. The biggest limitation for us is the capacity of the refrigerator and you do need to be conservative on what goes down the gray water tank. It is a great camper for it's size. There are many people on this forum that don't have a problem using this size of a wet shower, so this is just my opinion.