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twodownzero
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Sep 10, 2014

Lance(lite) 815--the 1/2 ton capable camper?

So I recall when I first came to the forum, many were happy to point out to me that the Lancelite 815 camper--which when it was made was the smallest Lance camper, is designed to be 1/2 ton capable.

Here's mine:


And here's my weight ticket:


My 1 ton, SRW truck is overloaded by 500 pounds. Those of you with newer 1 ton SRWs would be fine, as newer trucks have more payload because they generally come with 18" wheels, which have ~3600 lb capacities at least for the tires, whereas my truck has a 6200 lb Rear GAWR and has 17" wheels, with tires that were originally 3195 lbs. per.

I have long been skeptical of claims by companies that their campers are suitable for 1/2 ton trucks. I have serious doubts that any hard side camper is suitable for a 1/2 ton and even pop-ups with toilets are probably questionable as well.

I don't think it's the crime of the century that my 1 ton truck is ~5% overloaded but a 3/4 ton with the same features as my truck would be much more overloaded and the message really is, to me, that all but the smallest hard side campers belong on dual wheel trucks if we're talking about diesel, 4wd, 4 door trucks like mine where much of the GVWR is eaten up by the truck itself.

I know many of you disagree that the GVWR is an important number and instead focus on what the axles, wheels, and tires are capable of and by that measure, perhaps even a much larger and heavier camper would be okay on my truck. I would much prefer to be within my GVWR and I may pack lighter in the future to accommodate.

In the picture, I was loaded for a 5 day trip, but without my two dogs and their gear, and I was packing 25 gallons of fresh water as I was headed for the Grand Canyon where having a little extra water kinda comes in handy.

It's kinda like how you turn a 12 second car into a 16 second one: take it to the strip! Weigh your rig and I bet most of you would be very surprised at just how quickly the weight adds up.

The sticker weight on my camper (wet) is 2222 and the truck itself weighs 7,300.

16 Replies

  • JumboJet wrote:
    About the only difference between a 2500 and a 3500 SRW is the overload spring package(well if you throw out the exhaust brake and the true tow/haul mode). I owned a 2004 2500 and a 2008 3500. Both carried the same Lance 1030 with NO problem. Both had Torklift StableLoads installed. Both had a Hellwig sway bar. Both had 19.5" wheels and tires. Both carried the Lance 1030 for thousands of uneventful miles.

    You should not fret over a few hundred pounds when your truck is configured to carry more than the manufacturer's conservative numbers. But I know some people are anal about such things and without a proper setup and driving skills it could be a dangerous situation. By driving skills, I mean maintaining conservative speeds, allowing for adequate stopping distances, a well balanced front to back and side to side load, a constant awareness of road conditions, and a constant awareness of weather conditions.



    X2 Your truck will safely haul a lot bigger camper believe me. I traveled thousands of uneventful safe miles too with 17" forged aluminum stock wheels and Nittos, Helwig swaybar, and air bags. If that's what your comfortable with more power to you. I owned a lance 815 and though it was a nice TC it was way to small for me and the small tank capacity with gray draining into black was not working for me. small wet bath was difficult to shower and I am only 5'9" and 180 lbs. I give you lot of credit camping with two dogs in there. I safely haul a 4000 lb. wet 11' 6" dry bath Lance 990 now but did upgrade to 19.5 wheels and tires for added insurance. Traveled with that weight with 17" wheels and high load index tires over 4000 miles with no problems too. Your truck and my 2006 2500 are beasts in my opinion. Happy travels. 2004 Lance 815
    My 2012 Adventurer 86 fb I should not have sold because I listened too much of the weight police here..
    1998 Lance 990 Legend 11' 6" model
  • good info. Pretty much in the same boat, I have an Adventurer 89RB on a 2012 F350 SRW. I thought I'd have lots of room with weight capacity but I'm likely over the cargo capacity sticker. My 2400 lb camper becomes 3400 pretty quick.
  • Great post and lots of good information. I was close to purchasing a half ton truck a couple of years ago but went bigger. I'm eternally grateful that I did. Like many people I'm sure, I thought truck campers were small and lightweight. Boy was that a misperception. Supposed half ton capable TC's are usually not and it's a pity that they can be posed as such.
  • I didn't make this thread because I'm worried about 500 pounds. I made this thread because there are people who might think that a 1/2 ton truck, with C rated tires and a semi floating rear axle can carry this kind of camper. Those who think so are denying reality.

    A heavy duty pickup with a full floating rear axle and tires and suspension that can safely support the load is far safer with a mild overload than a 1/2 ton truck. And given what the weight ticket in this thread shows, it's hard to believe that any 1/2 ton truck--even a regular cab 2wd with no options--would be able to safely handle this camper.

    I do agree that if my truck was a 2 door truck with fewer options that it'd have more available payload capacity. Where I disagree is it is unlikely that those simple differences would make enough of a difference for this kind of camper to be on a lighter duty truck. Sure my truck would be 500 lbs lighter with 2wd and a gas engine.
  • While I'm a firm believer in a 3500 truck being a minimum for any truck camper I'd like to point out a flaw in your example.
    A 1500 truck minus the diesel engine of your truck, minus the 4x4 of your truck, minus the crew cab of your truck, minus whatever options come along with your chrome bumper and fog lights, might certainly be able to haul that camper if the camper was basically empty.
    I'm guessing your truck is a fairly highly optioned one and you had the camper loaded up and ready to camp.
    They don't say the camper is suitable for a loaded up 1/2 ton with a huge family and a lot of gear in the camper.
    But I do agree, anyone buying a 1500 truck to haul a TC is buying the wrong truck.
  • About the only difference between a 2500 and a 3500 SRW is the overload spring package(well if you throw out the exhaust brake and the true tow/haul mode). I owned a 2004 2500 and a 2008 3500. Both carried the same Lance 1030 with NO problem. Both had Torklift StableLoads installed. Both had a Hellwig sway bar. Both had 19.5" wheels and tires. Both carried the Lance 1030 for thousands of uneventful miles.

    You should not fret over a few hundred pounds when your truck is configured to carry more than the manufacturer's conservative numbers. But I know some people are anal about such things and without a proper setup and driving skills it could be a dangerous situation. By driving skills, I mean maintaining conservative speeds, allowing for adequate stopping distances, a well balanced front to back and side to side load, a constant awareness of road conditions, and a constant awareness of weather conditions.