Lots of Fords

blofgren wrote:

Arcamper wrote:

stickdog wrote:
6.0 and 6.4 were not Ford engines 6.7 was Ford designed and built.
As far as the quality of the truck other than the engine Ford is beyond the others.

I always love it when people say this like it was not Fords fault the engines were so bad. I had a 6.0 and took a bath when I went to sell it and I blame Ford. I have bought 3 new diesel pickups since and not one was a Ford or ever will be again. People talk about how good the truck itself is but I did not see that either. Wiper motor, door lock cylinder, vacuum hub seals, compass, rear pinion seal and a seat heater all went bad. No brand is perfect and all make lemons but I judge a company on how they handle their problems and Ford put profit above customer satisfaction. I was a Ford fan but when a company screws me out of 10 grand I don't go back and try again. I also don't think I am alone on this.

Very well said. Ford decided to put the 6.0 and 6.4 diesels in their trucks for 8 years; that is a lot of trucks and a lot of PO'd customers. A visit to any Ford diesel forum will provide a ton of proof of this and a ton of reading.

Although I did have a few other issues with my 2003 F-350 6.0L including the compass, pinion seal, rear axle seal, alternator, etc. I was not overly upset about that. I was upset about the resale value of the truck which was more than $10k less than a 7.3L and even more than a Ram/Cummins or Duramax. This was not a fluke because I had several dealers tell me the exact same thing. A couple of them even said they did not want the truck on trade because they don't sell well and are a liability for them for future warranty repairs. I could not sell the truck privately for a decent price, either. It had injectors going bad, had a bedplate leak that was getting worse, and the oil cooler was plugging up because my oil/coolant temperature delta was increasing. I was never so happy when I found the Ram in my signature and the dealer took my F-350 on trade, only because it was in such good condition. It sat on the lot for 8 months before it sold and the buyer asked to speak to me before buying it.

So you are certainly not alone in not going down the same road when getting screwed! I made a major change and have absolutely no regrets.

On the other hand I had a 05 6.0 PSD that I owned for 7 years and had 170k miles. Replaced the CAC hose, EGR valve, and a o-ring that was a cause for a oil leak, replaced the shocks once, one set of breaks. It was a great truck and I'm certain it would have made another 200k easy miles but got the 400HP bug. Anyways I got the NADA value for the truck for a no hassil trade in on another great Ford Super Duty that proving to be an even better truck. These two trucks run combined mileage of ~270k miles have cost very little in repairs.