LT Tire vs ST Tire
I assumed I wanted ST Tires for my camper and some people are telling me to go with LT Tires. Now I'm confused, and guess I shouldn't assume.
Forum Discussion
Lowsuv wrote:
........Every LT tire meets the standard for ST ratings .
ST tires do not meet the LT standards ......
Sorry, but while the standards are different between ST tires and LT tires, there hasn't been anyone who has done the testing to verify that.
ST tires are designated to have a larger load carrying capacity, but have a speed restriction of 65 mph. LT tires have a lower load carrying capacity, but have a higher speed capability.
You can argue that ST tires aren't built as well as LT tires - either because of the quality of the design or the quality of the manufacturing material and/or processes - but ST tires are designated for a certain task and LT tires are designated for a different task.
Nevertheless, there isn't any evidence that either will pass the other's testing requirements.Huntindog wrote:
ROBERTSUNRUS wrote:
:) Hi, I have read many tire debates and there are lots of opinions and personal experiences. I believe that LT tires will hold up better and maybe last longer. They also might give your trailer too hard of a ride or even a bit of sway. One thing to think about, that is seldom mentioned is the fact that while you are traveling three states away from your home, and you have a tire problem, many tire shops will only install the exact tire type and size that is on your trailer's data plate. NOW WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? :h
Another internet myth/scare tactic.
How many vehicles are on the road today with oversized tires? What about all those lifted trucks?
Every vehicle built has a "data" plate. It simply states what it came from the factory with...
My first TT, a 1975 Prowler's "data" plate listed tire sizes that are no longer in production.... I guess I can't buy tires for it anymore as the "data" plate is the end all be all.
Malarky. The Data plate just makes you aware of the minimum requirements. You are free to go above that. There are hundreds of thousands of vehicles on the road today doing this.
In fact the tire industry even has a procedure in place for this.
And NO, LT tires will NOT make your TT sway. DO you have ANY evidence to the contrary?
There is NO testing requirements for ST tires for ANY of their so called benefits. The manufacturers don't have to PROVE any of their marketing claims.
LT tires are available from many manufacturers in several lines as in; Good, Better, Best Some are even suitable for retreading. This can't be said of ST tires. All manufacturers only make one line.. The cheap one, and nobody will retread one due to the poor quality of the carcass.
:) Hi, call it a MYTH or what ever you want to call it, but several places for example Costco, will not change tire sizes or types on any vehicle that you bring to them for tires. I have had several vehicles with larger tires installed, but now they won't do it for, I'm guessing, liability. I asked Costco for one size larger tire for my BMW X-3; They showed me their list of authorized tires for this vehicle and they were all the same size. People that I know have brought just the wheels to the tire shop, asking for what they want and not telling them that the wheels come off of a trailer. This is not a MYTH. I'm not saying that all tire dealers do this, but there are some.- Thanks Huntindog .
You speak the truth .
I run oversize tires on everything and have done so since 1964 .
I have never had any tire shop refuse to install any tire on any vehicle or trailer .
Too many folks on this forum simply do not understand that ST Tires are designed to be the cheapest tires that will carry a load .
Every LT tire meets the standard for ST ratings .
ST tires do not meet the LT standards .
Otherwise those ST tires would be marked to the LT rating .
Manufacturers can charge more for an LT rated tire and the number of applications multiplies with the LT tire . FastEagle wrote:
X2john&bet wrote:
ROBERTSUNRUS wrote:
On my tt the data plate could no longer be read when I needed new tires. Now dealer can not go by it. So I get what I wanted without question. Oh, and by the way I was 1800 miles from home. JME.
:) Hi, I have read many tire debates and there are lots of opinions and personal experiences. I believe that LT tires will hold up better and maybe last longer. They also might give your trailer too hard of a ride or even a bit of sway. One thing to think about, that is seldom mentioned is the fact that while you are traveling three states away from your home, and you have a tire problem, many tire shops will only install the exact tire type and size that is on your trailer's data plate. NOW WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? :h
Unless your trailer was specially ordered with ST tires it came OEM with LT235/85R16E tires.
FastEaglejohn&bet wrote:
ROBERTSUNRUS wrote:
On my tt the data plate could no longer be read when I needed new tires. Now dealer can not go by it. So I get what I wanted without question. Oh, and by the way I was 1800 miles from home. JME.
:) Hi, I have read many tire debates and there are lots of opinions and personal experiences. I believe that LT tires will hold up better and maybe last longer. They also might give your trailer too hard of a ride or even a bit of sway. One thing to think about, that is seldom mentioned is the fact that while you are traveling three states away from your home, and you have a tire problem, many tire shops will only install the exact tire type and size that is on your trailer's data plate. NOW WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? :h
Unless your trailer was specially ordered with ST tires it came OEM with LT235/85R16E tires.
FastEagleHuntindog wrote:
ROBERTSUNRUS wrote:
:) Hi, I have read many tire debates and there are lots of opinions and personal experiences. I believe that LT tires will hold up better and maybe last longer. They also might give your trailer too hard of a ride or even a bit of sway. One thing to think about, that is seldom mentioned is the fact that while you are traveling three states away from your home, and you have a tire problem, many tire shops will only install the exact tire type and size that is on your trailer's data plate. NOW WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? :h
Another internet myth/scare tactic.
How many vehicles are on the road today with oversized tires? What about all those lifted trucks?
Every vehicle built has a "data" plate. It simply states what it came from the factory with...
My first TT, a 1975 Prowler's "data" plate listed tire sizes that are no longer in production.... I guess I can't buy tires for it anymore as the "data" plate is the end all be all.
Malarky. The Data plate just makes you aware of the minimum requirements. You are free to go above that. There are hundreds of thousands of vehicles on the road today doing this.
In fact the tire industry even has a procedure in place for this.
And NO, LT tires will NOT make your TT sway. DO you have ANY evidence to the contrary?
There is NO testing requirements for ST tires for ANY of their so called benefits. The manufacturers don't have to PROVE any of their marketing claims.
LT tires are available from many manufacturers in several lines as in; Good, Better, Best Some are even suitable for retreading. This can't be said of ST tires. All manufacturers only make one line.. The cheap one, and nobody will retread one due to the poor quality of the carcass.
Maybe you could be a little more precise with your answers and differentiate what may be done and what should be done.
Tire retailers sell tires. They are not always attuned to the wishes of the tire manufacturers they represent or the industry standards they should adhere to.
FastEagleROBERTSUNRUS wrote:
On my tt the data plate could no longer be read when I needed new tires. Now dealer can not go by it. So I get what I wanted without question. Oh, and by the way I was 1800 miles from home. JME.
:) Hi, I have read many tire debates and there are lots of opinions and personal experiences. I believe that LT tires will hold up better and maybe last longer. They also might give your trailer too hard of a ride or even a bit of sway. One thing to think about, that is seldom mentioned is the fact that while you are traveling three states away from your home, and you have a tire problem, many tire shops will only install the exact tire type and size that is on your trailer's data plate. NOW WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? :hROBERTSUNRUS wrote:
:) Hi, I have read many tire debates and there are lots of opinions and personal experiences. I believe that LT tires will hold up better and maybe last longer. They also might give your trailer too hard of a ride or even a bit of sway. One thing to think about, that is seldom mentioned is the fact that while you are traveling three states away from your home, and you have a tire problem, many tire shops will only install the exact tire type and size that is on your trailer's data plate. NOW WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? :h
Another internet myth/scare tactic.
How many vehicles are on the road today with oversized tires? What about all those lifted trucks?
Every vehicle built has a "data" plate. It simply states what it came from the factory with...
My first TT, a 1975 Prowler's "data" plate listed tire sizes that are no longer in production.... I guess I can't buy tires for it anymore as the "data" plate is the end all be all.
Malarky. The Data plate just makes you aware of the minimum requirements. You are free to go above that. There are hundreds of thousands of vehicles on the road today doing this.
In fact the tire industry even has a procedure in place for this.
And NO, LT tires will NOT make your TT sway. DO you have ANY evidence to the contrary?
There is NO testing requirements for ST tires for ANY of their so called benefits. The manufacturers don't have to PROVE any of their marketing claims.
LT tires are available from many manufacturers in several lines as in; Good, Better, Best Some are even suitable for retreading. This can't be said of ST tires. All manufacturers only make one line.. The cheap one, and nobody will retread one due to the poor quality of the carcass.- :) Hi, I have read many tire debates and there are lots of opinions and personal experiences. I believe that LT tires will hold up better and maybe last longer. They also might give your trailer too hard of a ride or even a bit of sway. One thing to think about, that is seldom mentioned is the fact that while you are traveling three states away from your home, and you have a tire problem, many tire shops will only install the exact tire type and size that is on your trailer's data plate. NOW WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? :h
- I would reccommend the new Carlisle RH Tire. There have been at least a dozen reports on this forum of good results-
http://www.tirereview.com/article/88909/carlisle_has_new_trailer_radial.aspx
see minute 4:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIBRnJjB-zU
