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blt2ski wrote:
They probably put it under lock and key, because it was not as good as it was hyped to be! Yeah it was a spec, that one can compare rigs of different types, shapes and forms........

BUT, it still did not take into account how we all use our trucks. IE the one that lives in the flatlands, can probably pull more than one that lives in area's with steeper grades. Ala the 12% min grade part. Does not do me a lot of good when I see road signs thru out King County/Seattle where I am in the 12-18% range. I even know where a road is that is 24% in grade. Yes a steep mother.

If it was a true how to use the specs to get the correct truck for your application, it would say how to derate the max rating if you were pulling say a 24% grade vs the 12% speced. Or if you were pulling a trailer with 100sqft of frontal area vs the std 60 or 80!

Tow ratings and gcwr is in reality, as much as some want to call it a safety rating, it is nothing more than a performance/warrenty rating. IE how fast you can go, max grade you can go up etc. Stopping in my book is bogus, as the trailer brakes stop the trailer, truck stops the truck. IF the trailer brakes are way oversized, you can stop quicker yet, same with the truck.......

If you are going to quote specs, make sure that anyone can see the spec, how it is figured out, how you can decrease or increase depending upon your application.....Then a spec works, if not, then it is useless as the J2807 spec is IMHO!

Marty

I agree with you 110%. Another problem I see with the J2807 would be folks on RV.net condemning others for exceeding the ratings of said standard. For someone who will only pull in the flats, does he have to stick with those rating for hills? For folks like you pulling the hills, the ratings mean nothing either.

If they rate for morons then is it right to expect professional drivers to have to abide by the standard? If for the professional driver a moron would be extremely dangero... never mind, they are dangerous getting behind the wheel of any vehicle.

One wet season I had one driver locally who went thru numerous clutches on his manual. One day he picked up his vehicle 1.8 miles from my house and arrived only to back his vehicle into my yard and get stuck. Approx an hour later the tow truck showed up to pull him out and take it back to the same dealer as he had destroyed his clutch three feet into my yard! Lasted less then one hour and 2 miles!