Manufacturer Says this is OK

rickeoni wrote:

Bedlam wrote:
I am used to seeing the rear tie downs at an opposite angle to the front and not in the same direction.

Agreed, with both tie downs angled in a similar forward direction this would cause the camper to be able to slide forward in the bed. Since the back wall of the bed is in the way it will lift in the back and dip on the cab over point. Probably not enough to do any damage to the truck but maybe a little to the camper, but sure will make for a scary ride on all but the smoothest surface!

hmmm...maybe with HJ's as they are tied to rear bumper.
With both our campers and frame mounted TL's they were mounted in this orientation. The TC is always loaded against the front bed wall so both front/rear tie-downs are holding the camper forward as well as down.

Why would you want to pull the camper away from front bed wall?

Am I missing something?

Tx, Bill

Bedlam wrote:
I am used to seeing the rear tie downs at an opposite angle to the front and not in the same direction.

Agreed, with both tie downs angled in a similar forward direction this would cause the camper to be able to slide forward in the bed. Since the back wall of the bed is in the way it will lift in the back and dip on the cab over point. Probably not enough to do any damage to the truck but maybe a little to the camper, but sure will make for a scary ride on all but the smoothest surface!

Two words to whoever owns this rig. Weigh it. :) All questions would be answered if they take it to the scales empty and dry, and wet and fully loaded. Then we could all stop assuming anything. Just my opinion.

Dak

deltabravo wrote:

cleary wrote:
Here's the camper loading instructions that came with my truck from Ford.

Chuck

Kind of comical that they show a drawing of an F150.

I think it is even more comical that people post some of this stuff as absolutely truth and factual for all trucks and TCs. My point being, I had none of this stuff in my owners manual, glove box, or TC manual. If I had none of it, how can someone tell me it applies to my truck or TC?

If someone posts in absolutes, simply because they read something somewhere, compromises their credibility in my opinion. Another thought, is if you read all the negative stuff in the glove box of a truck, buy a different brand that does not have that stuff.

I am fortunate in having an older truck. My only restrictions are based on the laws in the state where I live. If I should ignore a manufactures "recommendation" on something, so be it. On my truck and/or TC, not very many "recommendations" from the manufacture.

I am used to seeing the rear tie downs at an opposite angle to the front and not in the same direction.

Bedlam wrote:


3. The fact that the rear tie down angle is off shows this camper is not a good fit for any short bed.

What is "off" with the tie downs? On a long bed the front tiedown angle wouldn't change and the back tiedown would be close to straight up and down. Would that make it right?

cleary wrote:
Here's the camper loading instructions that came with my truck from Ford.

Chuck

Kind of comical that they show a drawing of an F150.

mkirsch wrote:

billtex wrote:
Copy/paste from our 06 Chevy Owners manual;

Here is an example of proper truck and camper match:
A. Camper Center of Gravity
B. Recommended Center of Gravity Location Zone
When the truck is used to carry a slide-in camper, the
total cargo load of the truck consists of the
manufacturer’s camper weight figure, the weight of
installed additional camper equipment not included in
the manufacturer’s camper weight figure, the weight of
camper cargo, and the weight of passengers in the
camper. The total cargo load should not exceed
the truck’s cargo weight rating and the camper’s center
of gravity (A) should fall within the truck’s recommended
center of gravity zone (B) when installed.

The "zone" in the picture (could not paste) is the entire wheel well...
Of course, the more mass you can shift toward the front axle the better the vehicle should handle as the majority will be over the rear.
B

It is NOT "the entire wheel well."

There are dimensions on the inside of the glove compartment lid that define the front and back of that zone.

My 2003 Chevy 1500 defines the zone as 0" to 78" measured from one end of the bed or the other. It has a 6-1/2' (78") bed.

IIRC my 2002 Chevy 3500 lists 0" and 96".

In the 06 manual it is shown as a zone the size of the wheel well...

billtex wrote:
Copy/paste from our 06 Chevy Owners manual;

Here is an example of proper truck and camper match:
A. Camper Center of Gravity
B. Recommended Center of Gravity Location Zone
When the truck is used to carry a slide-in camper, the
total cargo load of the truck consists of the
manufacturer’s camper weight figure, the weight of
installed additional camper equipment not included in
the manufacturer’s camper weight figure, the weight of
camper cargo, and the weight of passengers in the
camper. The total cargo load should not exceed
the truck’s cargo weight rating and the camper’s center
of gravity (A) should fall within the truck’s recommended
center of gravity zone (B) when installed.

The "zone" in the picture (could not paste) is the entire wheel well...
Of course, the more mass you can shift toward the front axle the better the vehicle should handle as the majority will be over the rear.
B

It is NOT "the entire wheel well."

There are dimensions on the inside of the glove compartment lid that define the front and back of that zone.

My 2003 Chevy 1500 defines the zone as 0" to 78" measured from one end of the bed or the other. It has a 6-1/2' (78") bed.

IIRC my 2002 Chevy 3500 lists 0" and 96".

deltabravo wrote:

jimh425 wrote:
...Assuming it is a Lance 1050s as the picture description says.

I think it's just that JJ uploaded in to t folder in his phoobucket acount named "Lance"

lance doesn't use Happihjacs, which the camper in he photo has.

I reckon its a Eagle Cap camper, I conclude that because of the large latches on the compartment doors (EC calls them SLAM LATCHES)
and the graphics.

Been offline today.

Yes it is an Eagle Cap. No it is not my truck or camper.

The camper was picked up yesterday and the picture posted of Facebook by one of my FB friends.

I saw the space between the rear of the truck and the camper and the angle of the rear tie down and said to myself "What!?"

The COG mark came from a brochure for that TC. Maybe the COG mark on the driver's side is different than the passenger side, but why would it be?

Just didn't look right to me, but it may be the best setup on the road today!