Max Tow F150s

Maury82 wrote:

demiles wrote:
If you would check what characteristics make a TV more stable , payload rating is not one of them. The only place it helps is in the vertical plane which has little effect on sway stability. The single thing that improves stability the most is increasing TV unladen mass followed by increasing its wheelbase. The Ford HDPP 150s are still lightweights and towing with high tongue weights and high payload is a scary thing. There’s a very good reason why HDPP tow ratings are lower. So the 1/2 vs 3/4 ton argument is valid though many don’t understand why

I don't believe you have a clue how the HDPP trucks will handle it's towing rating's...I think you are speculating.

When it's comes to the newer 1/2 ton towing, especially the HDPP trucks, I don't trust the words of anyone who hasn't actually towed heavy with a newer HDPP truck, because I really don't think you have the slightest clue.

As a matter of fact, I'll tell you how it tows. I pick up my HDPP truck today, and once I finish breaking it in, I'll be the one to tell you how it tows. Unless you actually towed a heavy and long TT with a newer HD 1/2, you are only speculating, and are not in the position to tell others how it tows.

I have a 37ft, 8,300 dry TT, so once I break my truck in and get some towing miles on it, I'll let YOU know about towing a heavy and long TT with a 1/2 ton.

I'm going to either cancel or confirm all that doom and gloom, "too much for a 1/2 ton", "too long for a 1/2 ton", "I wouldn't go any heavier", rhetoric about what a 1/2 ton can and can't do.

The 2/3 trucks are designed to tow heavier loads than the 1/2 ton, and it weighs more. Because of of that, they have the suspension rated to handle it's added weight and towing capacity.

The F150 EB 3.5 HDPP, has less towing ratings than the same version of the 3/4 ton, and even with a less stout suspension, stops, accelerates, handles turns better than the heavier trucks, because it doesn't need as heavy suspension because of its lighter weight and towing ratings.

There are compromises, and while that 3/4 ton will be a bit more stout towing my trailer than the HDPP F150, especially in windy conditions, but that F150 will be stable...a trade-off.

I'm willing to trade-off that slight gain in stability for better engine and transmission combination that those gas 3/4 trucks are far inferior to the 3.5 EB when towing heavier loads, particularly up hills and when accelerating.

That 3.5 EB add further gains when not towing that the 3/4 ton gas or diesel engines that renders 3/4 ton trucks far inferior to many 1/2 owners...give a little, but gain a lot.

Give a little less towing stability, but gaining much more in every when towing and especially when not towing.