Max Towing Wars - Ford vs Ram

FishOnOne wrote:

SLE wrote:
Alright, lets get a few things straight. First off, the Ram 3500 and the Ford F450 for all intensive purposes are the same class truck, both carry a 14,000 lb GVWRs and both are rated to tow more than 30k lbs. I don't care how they are badged so long as they have similar GVWR and Tow Ratings. Jumping up to a 4500 Ram is going to yield worse results as the engines are derated in that series and it's likely a heavier truck which will handicap it even more. They are using the best configured Ram available which offers very similar ratings to the Ford.

Seconding, even if Ford uses an F350, the powertrain is the same right down to the rear end ratio, the differences are in frame, suspension components, tires, and maybe brakes (I don't know on that one). The race to the top of the hill wouldn't change. The handling and stopping might however I expect the exhaust brake and programming is the same between them.

Next, why is everyone always so hung up on the rear gear ratio. This is simply one component. Nobody mentions tire size, transmission ratios, torque converters, etc. The rear end ratio is only one part of the equation. At the end of the day, the deepest rear end available in Ram's Max Tow configuration is a 4.10 and for ford is a 4.30. Each manufacturer has determined these rear end ratios are what is needed to meet the subsequent rating for each truck. It comes down to a comparison of the two most capable trucks available in stock configuration.

Lastly, the last time this same test was ran (by the so called "ford advertising site"), the Dodge prevailed, Kudos to them for such a good package. Since that time the Ford has seen some changes and this should highlight how well those changes have been implemented and if they truly make a difference. It's obvious that Ford took that last test very seriously, looked at there truck, and made it a point to make some improvements. You can only hope the other manufacturers will do the same.

Well said... Forget the plastic label badge on these trucks.

Ohhhhh...OK so as long as the test works in your Kool-aid then it's a valid test right guys? But when your flavor has to resort to trickery and flat out lies then it's no longer a valid test, but spin away. As lawnspecialties said stop the HP/TQ wars and build a diesel truck that can get some real mileage again, you know like my 2004 tractor as it was called by a member that's no longer here. LOL

Don