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jefe_4x4
May 23, 2013Explorer
Hmm. For those without secondaries on top, this may be a good idea. The contact area of the narrow end of the rubber cone is a bit shy. Let us know how much they compress under full load and off-camber. What is the load rating in pounds of the MaxLoader? Any reputable spring shop knows what the load rating (spring rate) is.
It's always a compromise between stiffening up your suspension enough to stop the rocking and still have enough travel for off-road: and have it revertable when no load is in the bed.
I've never been fond of the quick-and-dirty rubber cone add-on between the overload spring (the thick one at the bottom of the stock pack) and the leaf stack. The overload spring has almost no deflection. It's just a shelf to catch your sagging main pack.
In the good old days, many thin leaves guaranteed a lot of carrying capacity AND a nice ride AND good suspension travel.
I was looking at a midwest spring shop's catalog ( General Spring, recommended on a post here on the forum) last night, and they had Dodge (my brand) main pack replacement springs with capacities of:
2860 pounds (4 leaf pack)
3050 pounds (4 leaf pack)
2830 pounds (6 leaf pack)
3600 pounds (6 leaf pack)
4000 pounds (8 leaf pack)
Notice the lower load rating of the 6 leaf pack. This tells me that the leaves are thinner.
All the above are from (each) $179 to $219, not a prohibitive price for new springs.
They also touted Super Springs, which may guarantee a firmer ride than you want. They do have a nice roller which diminishes friction. But, I like the friction you get with big old dumb leaf springs, dragging against themselves down that rusty corridor of ride control. I'm also leery of any outfit that has approximate load ratings of their products. What can you deduce with 3000, 4000, and 5000 pound load ratings? It tells me they really have never tested and measured their products' actual spring rate. Don't they know us guys need numbers? Show me your numbers!
Some of you with Super Springs need to speak up of your personal experience.
It is important for you to test drive your new Max Loader and report on how they did with your setup. I do like the explanation and nice set of pix to show us how you did what you did.
regards, as always, jefe
It's always a compromise between stiffening up your suspension enough to stop the rocking and still have enough travel for off-road: and have it revertable when no load is in the bed.
I've never been fond of the quick-and-dirty rubber cone add-on between the overload spring (the thick one at the bottom of the stock pack) and the leaf stack. The overload spring has almost no deflection. It's just a shelf to catch your sagging main pack.
In the good old days, many thin leaves guaranteed a lot of carrying capacity AND a nice ride AND good suspension travel.
I was looking at a midwest spring shop's catalog ( General Spring, recommended on a post here on the forum) last night, and they had Dodge (my brand) main pack replacement springs with capacities of:
2860 pounds (4 leaf pack)
3050 pounds (4 leaf pack)
2830 pounds (6 leaf pack)
3600 pounds (6 leaf pack)
4000 pounds (8 leaf pack)
Notice the lower load rating of the 6 leaf pack. This tells me that the leaves are thinner.
All the above are from (each) $179 to $219, not a prohibitive price for new springs.
They also touted Super Springs, which may guarantee a firmer ride than you want. They do have a nice roller which diminishes friction. But, I like the friction you get with big old dumb leaf springs, dragging against themselves down that rusty corridor of ride control. I'm also leery of any outfit that has approximate load ratings of their products. What can you deduce with 3000, 4000, and 5000 pound load ratings? It tells me they really have never tested and measured their products' actual spring rate. Don't they know us guys need numbers? Show me your numbers!
Some of you with Super Springs need to speak up of your personal experience.
It is important for you to test drive your new Max Loader and report on how they did with your setup. I do like the explanation and nice set of pix to show us how you did what you did.
regards, as always, jefe
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