Mazama and Sumitomo tires

Garry&Gayle wrote:
They have not split from Toyo, my local Schwab dealer is currently going to order me a set of Open Country at 3s they are on backorder. I had the open countries put on in a hurry up affair while on vacation and I'm trading them in on there 60 days trade off, they are under rated for my application and don't seem as stable towing as my old Toyos.

So you had Toyos (whatever model), you got new Toyos, Open Country's you said, and you're "trading" them on new again Open Country's because you cheeped out and got the light duty models for your half ton and not the LT tires?
What did I miss?

Yes they have split from Toyo. Doesn't mean they can't order them. They could order a Goodyear or a Michelin or whatever if you wanted as well. Funny you mention that, because I just checked quick-see, they actually show a Toyo RT in one size locally (probably left over stock, since Toyo RT's are not great tires) and they don't mention the brand name, just like their marketing team has removed the brand names from the now 2nd tier tires they actually carry.

Of which they have priced somewhere between the same as the most expensive brand name tires you can get and considerably higher than the rest of the excellent brand name tires you can get.

They've gone the way of the other actual brand name tire shops like Goodyear and Firestone, with exorbitant prices and shameless up-sells ("required" up-sells in some cases, like brakes).

Bottom line, anyone who shops at Schwabs anymore, either is unaware of their overcharging tactics or literally has money to burn.

At least they are still good about free flat fixes and re-balancing, although on average if a person has 1 flat and 1 intermediate balance in the life of a tire, it's still worth nowhere near the upcharge cost.