blt2ski wrote:
Grit
The Mazama AT tires are also called Open Country. so Garry&Gayle may have put on the Mazama tire, which comes with a 60 day try it time frame. ordered in Toyo "Open Country" AT3's, will put them on when they come in.
With this said, I've found the Toyo tires no matter where I looked to be in the +$30-40 per tire range vs the Cooper AT3, with 5-10K more miles warranty.
LS FEA is about $10-20 less than the others, add in the as you note, +$10-20 per tire equal, While they are a bit more overall. From a park the truck 3-5 blocks from work, walk to and from, The overall difference is pretty minor ie $1750 vs $1700 at Discount> then Two hrs sitting getting the tires, then go to another shop to do FEA, 2-3 hrs.... or have spouse follow me to shop, bring me home, go shopping etc for 3-5 hrs, go back get the truck. The Cooper Back country tire was around $1650 IIRC. That has an older case, rubber compound, tread design.
At the end.....choose poison!
As noted, the Mazama may have a softer sidewall than the Toyo, so it does not handle loads as well as a stiffer one, but could ride smoother empty per say. this would not be the first time I've noticed this issue in tires. Be it the same or different brand of tires.
Marty
Not trying to argue, but for $400/tire they better have been for your dump truck and not your new half ton.
The $10more I was referring to was the cheapo Schwabs tires vs the most expensive tires like Duratracs or Toyo AT/MT. Try $100 more per tire compared to known quality tries and even more compared to other China bomb cheap truck tires.
I’ve only been up here for 10 years. And when we moved here, Schwabs was ok. Now they’re as greasy and overpriced as anywhere, maybe more.
Here in the city, they have enough suckers that don’t know a valve stem from a valve job. And they’re well established enough that your average Joe customer will take awhile before they question good ole uncle Les….but they suck.
And Mazamas are Open Range, by at least that guy can get rid of them.